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Subject: Re: CSTal and Chess Tiger Not on SSDF??

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 07:49:54 09/23/99

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On September 23, 1999 at 02:10:16, blass uri wrote:

>On September 22, 1999 at 19:28:20, Leon Stancliff wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me why Chess System Tal and Chess Tiger are not listed on the
>>SSDF rating list?
>>
>>
>>
>>By the way, I understand the new rating list will be out on Sunday the 26th.
>
>The ssdf is not allowed to test chess system tal.
>This is the reason that they do not test it or test without telling us the name.

They aren't allowed to report the results publicly.  That's different from not
being allowed to test it.  _They_ know which programs are which.

>I do not like their secret numbers.
>I think that noone is interested to know that program number 261 has 2500
>rating.
>
>It is better if they stop testing the programs that they are not allowed to test
>and do all the games public.
>
>I prefer a list with less games when all the games are public because I have
>problem to trust results when the games are not public because it is impossible
>to discover mistakes.

This is an unfortunate consequence of the decision by vendors to refuse to
permit testing.  Even in the case where the opponents are known, not all of the
games are usually available.  Perhaps you would be happier if there was also a
chart based on only public games.  My guess would be that the group is small
enough that they know each other and that they are not worried that one person
will skew reported results.

>Uri

Dave



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