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Subject: Re: Crafty and 4Q tablebases

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:39:07 09/23/99

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On September 23, 1999 at 12:50:21, Peter Marko wrote:

>Thanks for your quick response, Robert. Regarding CD distribution of the 4Q
>tablebases, I am more than willing to do it provided that
>
>(1) All parties involved give me permission to do it; and
>(2) I receive one copy of the tablebases on CDs.
>
>I can burn the duplicate CDs and mail them to a few people on the World Team to
>take that burden off the developers' shoulders.
>
>Please keep me posted on your progress with integrating Crafty and the 6-piece
>TBs.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Peter
>

Crafty is finished...  (16.19).  I think Eugene might have a minor glitch in
the probe code, and he is looking at it, as we only need wtm for the kqqkqq
type files as they are symmetric with white and black, and it is just a matter
of inverting the board and probing to get the right score.  He thought he was
doing this, but I was only seeing hits on every other ply, which suggested that
it might not be working right.

in any case, download 16.19 source, add the -DEGTB6 compile option, and you
are ready to go, although maybe not quite optimally just yet...  and I would
generally not run with just a couple of 6 man files in real games, as it will
try to probe on _any_ 6 man ending and most will be rejected, wasting time.



>
>On September 23, 1999 at 09:48:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 23, 1999 at 09:26:13, Peter Marko wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Guy Haworth has asked me to take the baton from him and organize making this
>>>wonderful new tool available to the World Team in the Kasparov vs. The World
>>>interactive game. At this point I am wondering about the following:
>>>
>>>1. It is my understanding that Crafty needs minor modifications before it could
>>>be used with the new KQQKQQ tablebases. When will this happen? I saw Robert's
>>>post in this thread about a new version of Crafty being readied last night (Sep
>>>22).
>>>
>>
>>there is a small glitch...  the IInitializeTb() function is returning 5, even
>>when there are 6 piece files handy.  This would normally be innocent enough,
>>but I use this number to tell me when to start probing... as a result, I never
>>probe 6 piece files...  I have sent this to Eugene.  I have been busy on a
>>SPEC problem and didn't have time to try to figure out how to make his code
>>return 6 with the kqqkqq files are present...
>>
>>
>>
>>>2. Is there any change in Crafty's system requirements when one uses it with the
>>>6-man tablebases?
>>
>>
>>
>>couple of megs more memory for the decompression indices...
>>
>>
>>>
>>>3. The tablebases are very large, and downloading them is not an option for most
>>>users. Is there a chance of having them available on CDs?
>>
>>
>>Anyone could do this...  But it is an investment in time to burn the things
>>and distribute them...
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>My plan is to announce the availability of Crafty and the four-Queen tablebases
>>>on the World Team Strategy Bulletin Board
>>>
>>>http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/kasparov-team/index.asp
>>>
>>>after all the details have been worked out at this forum. I would like to have a
>>>few chess computer enthusiasts to take on the challenge of installing the new
>>>Crafty with the 6-man EGTBs and making them available to the World Team.
>>>
>>>Please advise as to the above questions on this board or via e-mail
>>>(pmarko@netcom.ca).
>>>
>>>Thank you and best regards,
>>>
>>>Peter



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