Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 15:55:47 09/23/99
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On September 23, 1999 at 16:47:12, James T. Walker wrote: >*********** >Thorsten why don't you get off the soap box! I agree CSTal-2 is NOT designed to >play blitz. since cstal is playing those kind of games in 40/120 against all kind of opponents [Event "?"] [Site "k6-400 40/120"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "MCP8"] [Black "CSTal2.03"] [Result "0-1"] 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. d3 Nc6 4. Nf3 Bc5 5. O-O d6 6. c3 O-O 7. b4 Bb6 8. Nbd2 a5 9. b5 Ne7 10. a4 Ng6 11. Ba2 h6 12. Ba3 Bg4 13. Nc4 Nh4 14. Kh1 Bxf3 15. gxf3 Qd7 16. Nxb6 Qh3 17. Rg1 Nxf3 18. Rg2 cxb6 19. Qe2 Rad8 20. Bd5 Ng4 0-1 i don't care about blitz results or cb-autoplayers. > This game was 15 minutes which is a kind of slow blitz I admit. aha. >But are you saying that CSTal is only good for 40/2 and nothing more? you don't get it. even hiarcs was a long time (a couple of years) best tuned for 40/120. maybe you never realized, but it was. > I have >not seen a 1669 player beat Hiarcs,Junior or Nimzo99 at this time control. i have not replayed the game and proofed it. >That's the only point of the post. It has nothing to do with the Junior games. >I would have been happy to post a winning game of CSTal-2 when it was playing >Hiarcs 7.32 but it did not happen. and you don't wonder that other people get lots of winning games without "cheating" just from the stand, without playing lots of games ?? even the icc-match instantly was a win. and YOU cannot produce a winning game with the autoplayer and you don't ever wonder why ? pah - its senseless to discuss with you. you don't get the point. > That was just bad luck. I'm simply showing >it's style of play which is very vulnerable when it can't "see" very far ahead. >I am not anti CSTal like you think. I am trying to balance some of the >propaganda put out by you. by making propaganda. i am not doing any propaganda. i play a game and the above happens. without any further trying. just from the stand/cratch. and it happens because cstal can play those games, easily. > As long as you persist in your propaganda I will >attempt to present a different view. there is no propaganda. the thing only exists in your mind. if you believe in propaganda, than you think propaganda exists. the only thing that is, are my posted games. the propaganda is what you make out of it. and what you wanted to show by presenting your 6-0 or 10-0 results. THIS is propaganda. my results are normal-. if somebody here posts totalitarian results than it is you. and i can only laugh about your 6-0 / 10-0 results. >People can look at the games and judge for >themselves. and what do you think can they learn from your strange results of one loss after another when in the same time manually played games show different results ? The only thing they learn is that the autoplayer cheats. this is exactly what i am saying for years. so - you work for me. thank you. >******** >What is fake? The games? Where is your proof? What claim? Fake opinion? How >can I fake my opinion? The games speak for themselves. >******** I need no proof. the fact that your results are so much different from the results other people get playing manually shows me that the autoplayer cheats. "the games speak for themselves". right. so look in the winning games other people post ! do they all fake ? do they all cheat ? how do they cheat online on ICC in the match ? you are very funny. you need more proof that something is going on with this device ? >******* >Sorry but none of the games are faked. They are as they were played without >HUMAN intervention. By the way I used your "Style" in the games. Perhaps that >was the problem. Should I do the games again with the original style? of course you should use the original-default style. but it is not important what YOU try. Not for me. for me the fact that other people can follow and also produce similar results like i do have is enough for me. i don't need further discussion on this. IMO you have made your own grave. You asked for it. and now you have it. sleep well. In the moment your autoplayer produces complete diametral results than the manually played games of other people, it becomes quiet obvious that the autoplayer is doing something the programs don't do when there is no link between the pc's. of course you can call all people doing so betrayers and cheaters. do so. but it will not help you anyhow. >Jim Walker >*******
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