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Subject: Re: To Eugene, pls explain: TBs and something sneaky

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 14:28:06 09/25/99

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Current version of Crafty will not use KNKN, KBKB, KRKR, KQKQ, KNNKNN, KBBKBB,
KRRKRR, and KQQKQQ NBB files. So you can delete KNKN.NBB, KBKB.NBB, KRKR.NBB,
and KQKQ.NBB.

Eugene

On September 25, 1999 at 10:50:40, Michel Chassey wrote:

>Hello,
>"Now for pawnless symmetric >TB only WTM file is necessary." (unquote :)
>I may be jumping the gun here but the implications should be addressed.
>Either a Crafty user need both (nbw and nbb) TBs and the space saving only
>happens on the FTP machine, or the new Crafty only needs WTM files :) for
>pawnless symmetric.
>Then could we could get rid of ALL pawnless symmetric nbb files, could we
>could we ???   :)
>
>Michel Chassey
>ICQ # 34801616
>**************
>On September 24, 1999 at 12:24:23, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>
>>Pawnless files withe equal material ("symmetric") are absolutely identical. I
>>ignored that fact when the only such files were KNKN, KBKB, KRKR, and KQKQ, as
>>total saving were ~6Mb, and I decided not to complicate the program. But with 6
>>man TBs saving is much more, so I modified the code. Now for pawnless symmetric
>>TB only WTM file is necessary.
>>
>>For TB with pawns situation is more complicated: it's necessary to "flip" the
>>board for BTM. I had not done it yet, and I think that we have more than enough
>>time before that issue will become actual.
>>
>>Eugene
>>
>>On September 24, 1999 at 11:23:43, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On September 24, 1999 at 02:48:21, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 24, 1999 at 02:43:55, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 24, 1999 at 02:39:34, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>And another thing:
>>>>>>I notice that we have only:
>>>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/kqqkqq.nbw.emd
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/krrkrr.nbw.emd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there a plan to create the .nbb files, or is this strictly for the Kasparov
>>>>>>match?
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, the data would be exactly the same, so why would you want to waste the
>>>>>space?  (Both sides have the same material.)
>>>>Does not seem to make any difference.  For some reason (unknown to me) it does
>>>>not seem to be symmetrical.  For example:
>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/kbkb.nbb.emd
>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/kbkb.nbw.emd
>>>>or:
>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/kpkp.nbb.emd
>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/kpkp.nbw.emd
>>>>
>>>>Strangly (to me at least because I don't understand why) they are not always
>>>>even the same size.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Same material, but two different files.
>>>
>>>In that case, I probably misunderstood the composition of the files.  Sorry! :)
>>>
>>>Dave



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