Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 14:28:42 09/26/99
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On September 26, 1999 at 17:02:14, blass uri wrote: >I think that James walker is using the CB autoplayer so maybe this Autoplayer is >not against tal. as is said: the way some people test does not tell us about the playing strength of a program because they don't test exact enough. it takes care to make sure the conditions are fair. if you post 6-0 and tell me that cstal would be never able to win against hiarcs, and tell me that nobody else but thorsten czub is able to get these results, than it is making propagande against me. i was not lying, not cheating and not manipulating. I don't get money from chris. i would never do such a thing. if cstal would lose , i would say so. but it wasn't the case. cstal is not the first program i have tested in my life. and i am not the only person on earth getting good results between hiarcs and cstal. >Mark young believes that Hiarcs7.32's book is not good and Hiarcs7.32 with >Hiarcs7's book or Junior's book is better. we should find out if hiarcs7.32 is weaker or stronger than hiarcs7.1-DOS. >Hiarcs7.32's engine is probably better than hiarcs7's engine but the book of >Hiarcs7 is better than the book of hiarcs7.32 yes. could be the reason. >People are interested in the truth but the fact that your style is hostile >against chessbase convince people not to believe you. the reasons i am against chessbase is based on my experience with them. i have nothing against the persons, but against what the persons are doing. i don't hate them. if they would change their methods, i would change my comments. >I am sure people are going to believe more other people's result like Jim >walker. good ! i guess he is on chris payroll. uri - when i publish good rebel games i am on ed's payroll. publishing good novag-results makes me into thorsten novag and good saitek results made me into thorsten saitek. there is always ONE side who has an interest in attacking your reputation. one time it is ossi because i do attack mephisto. later it is niggemann because i am writing pro saitek. than later niggemann is on my side because HE is suddenly working for saitek too. suddenly he proudly presents mr.winkler his personal thorsten saitek. the nickname he gave me to connotate: this guy is on saiteks payroll. but in the moment HE works for saitek he quotes the nickname he gave me to avoke that i am paid. this is the truth. there is always ONE side interested in calling you a liar. I have worked with so many programmers that i know the sides change. one time you work against ossi. one day you are together with him against chessbase (e.g. when you are on shredders side and he sells shredder). its changes. and i can stand this very good. because i know that they are all playing a game called poker. >I understand suspecting that something is wrong with the autoplayer and >prefering to play games manually but I think that it is wrong to say that the >autoplayer is cheating(even if there is something wrong with the autoplayer it >may be a bug and not cheating and chessbase has a history of stupid mistakes >against themselves so I reject the claim that they cheat). okokok. i was only saying that i do not believe cstal would ever lose 6-0 or 10-0 against hiarcs. this was my claim. it is nearly impossible. this was what i wanted to say. and therefore i played some games. and the result was anybody called me manipulating the games. this is not a computerchess-forum but a cheerleader-forum. the ones cry : michael jackson and the others cry very loud: elvis elvis elvis. Nobody is really interested in music. to stay in the image. in the moment the one group tries to say: michael jackson is a good singer the other side cries: you are cheating. you are a liar. you manipulate. i know better how cstal plays vs. hiarcs. and so i am loudly defending it when somebody says: 6-0 or even higher loss. because i know if you get such a result than something is wrong with you setting. >Uri let us come back to computerchess. and not shout like cheerleaders.
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