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Subject: Re: Is SSDF list level is now badly inflated?!

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 11:04:15 09/27/99

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On September 27, 1999 at 13:14:50, blass uri wrote:

>On September 27, 1999 at 09:15:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 27, 1999 at 05:03:54, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>Fritz's rating is 2681. I think this is too much. Of course Fritz plays at GM
>>>level, but not at 2681. So there are 2 possible reasons:
>>>1) SSDF human games are from beginning of 1990 and probably humans know
>>>computers now much better  or
>>>2) comp-comp play increases rating differences.
>>>
>>>I think, that probably both reasons are inflating list now.
>>>But still many thanks for SSDF for new list - we haven't anything better.
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>If you interpret the list correctly, the ratings are ok.  We just can't take
>>SSDF ratings as anywhere within 200 points of the FIDE scale...
>>
>>But for comparing two programs, it is statistically sound..
>
>I think that the surprising fact in the list is that there that the hardware gap
>K6-450 vs p200 does not seem to give less benefit relative to p200 vs p90
>
>I expected that hardware is going to give less benefit because the result of
>some games is decided by the opening and not by the engines(I saw 2 games
>Junior5-Hiarcs7.32 when the evaluation of white out of book was 0.00 and the
>position was a clear draw(the best for white is repetition).
>
>I expected that when programs are using faster hardware there will be more cases
>when the result is decided by the opening books and this is the reason that I
>expected less advantage from fast hardware.
>
>I think that we are usually not going to see results of 40:0 between top
>programs even if the hardware of one program is 1000000 times faster because of
>this reason.
>
>The bad book of top programs and the fact that they do not use time to calculate
>if to play book moves is the main reason that I expected
>less benefit from fast hardware.
>
>Uri

I don't think that anyone has presented any evidence other than "common sense"
that the Elo increase with increased hardware speed is not linear.

bruce




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