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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 7.32 vs. 7.0

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 06:39:08 09/28/99

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On September 28, 1999 at 08:54:53, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On September 28, 1999 at 08:40:06, Shep wrote:
>
>>On September 28, 1999 at 06:49:54, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If H7.32 is weaker then H7.01 my guess it´s because of the table-bases that
>>>slows it down a lot in the endgame. If you have played both versions I guess you
>>>should have recognized it immediately.
>>
>>I wouldn't say it gets slowed down "a lot". I have never seen Hiarcs drop below
>>its usual middle game node count even during heavy tablebase access.
>>Maybe it would be faster without them, but certainly not to the point where it
>>is actually harmful.
>>If TB usage is indeed counterproductive, it is probably not related to decreased
>>search speed.
>>Example: FIN09 from Louguet II. Hiarcs 7.0 solves this in 18 minutes on my
>>P6-233 while 7.32 cannot solve it in 40 minutes! Yet this is a position where
>>a) Hiarcs does not slow down to a crawl (although it does probe them
>>   a lot more than e.g. Nimzo) and
>>b) tablebases are quite useful IMO
>>
>>Besides, if indeed 7.32 plays weaker than 7.0 in general, it is definitely not
>>tablebase-related; for example in my recent big tournament, there were only two
>>games where Hiarcs ever probed the TB's, and neither of them was anything but a
>>draw anyway.
>>
>>---
>>Shep
>
>I think that H732 is stronger than H701 (so does Mark), even if only because
>it's faster. But it also knows a bit better. I didn't notice significant slower
>searches when accessing tablebases, maybe because I copied them to disk.
>
>Enrique

Hallo!

I have them on my disk but I can see the nps go down from say 90-100 to 50-60,
it´s not that much but significant I think.

Regards Bertil SSDF



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