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Subject: Re: The world of AUTO232

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 01:50:33 09/29/99

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On September 29, 1999 at 03:14:06, Ed Schröder wrote:

>>Posted by José Berdiñas Bonefua on September 28, 1999 at 21:23:08:
>>
>>I am waiting the auto232 support for Rebel 10.
>>You promise it!!.
>>
>>José
>
>This is not true.
>
>I promised that I would set free auto232 in case I was able to solve the
>auto232 problems I have seen. That is quite something else.
>
>Anyway it is good that you bring up the topic as now after 8-9 months of
>close investigations I can share some remarkable findings about auto232.
>
>I know now there is not a (big) problem other than that I have noticed the
>below list of weird things which are good to know for everybody who use
>auto232.
>
>#1. In rare cases I have seen Rebel's NPS drop with a factor of 3 during
>an auto232 match. Thus playing a match on a PII-450 the machine at some
>moment in the auto232 match the PC Rebel was running suddenly behaved
>as a PII-150 machine. The factor 3 is remarkable because it is an indication
>it smells to hardware and not to software.
>
>Of course the outcome of these matches are worthless and I wouldn't exclude
>the possibility such things also happen on the machines of Rebel opponents.
>The BIG problem is: how do you recognize it? Perhaps it happens a lot more
>because it is difficult to notice it. I think that for the future I will add
>some code to test the reliability of the program after each game.
>
>#2. I have seen Rebel and Rebel opponent crashes. Not that I consider an
>auto232 crash as a big deal as after all auto232 is tricky software and you
>are asking for trouble. But if after a crash the BIOS is corrupted too I
>consider that as very serious. In such cases I consider such a  match as
>worthless as I have noticed in such cases Rebel or the Rebel opponent has
>a big advantage in the match sore (silly match scores like 15-1) which is
>a clear indication the other PC is totally nuts.
>
>#3. Quite often after "exit program" the memory of the PC is corrupted. I
>have seen for example error silly error messages like, "Sector not found
>abort, retry... " or other strange stuff. In such cases you sometimes
>even can't run another program, you have to reboot first to get the PC
>working again. Of course this raises the question, "how valid was the
>match you just played?".
>
>#4. I have seen Rebel (and other programs) play moves that couldn't be
>reproduced while Rebel is programmed to do so. I have not much of such
>cases but the fact it happens isn't a funny thought as you don't have
>the time to check every auto232 move.
>
>#5. I have seen Mchess give away a rook to Rebel without any reason as the
>position was drawish. It was impossible to reproduce it manually. I saw the
>Mchess case by accident because I was watching the game.
>
>#6. I remember a case (which is similar to #3) that after an auto232 session
>the PC in question couldn't recognize the modem anymore when I tried to
>log-in to the Internet on that machine. The most worse thing on this case was
>that I was able to reproduce it time and time again.
>
>So far the list (which is not complete) but these are the cases I remember.
>It made me conclude that auto232 is more fragile than I already thought. An
>important second conclusion for me was that the problem isn't related to
>Rebel but that all programs sometimes go nuts because of auto232 for
>totally unknown reasons.
>
>I therefore see no reason any longer that Rebel10 should not support
>auto232. Auto232 in Rebel10 becomes active if you copy a file. To be
>more precisely do:
>
>COPY USERINFO.CFG to AUTO232.CFG
>
>Then check the menu OPTIONS (F3) and the "auto232" option should
>be present.
>
>Ed Schroder
>
>Posted on CCC and Rebel-Board

==============

 It sounds like "Single engine matches" have a better chance to produce more -
accurate results than auto 232!

Terry



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