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Subject: Re: TableBase-Bug in Crafty 16.15 - Question to Bob Hyatt

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:13:27 09/30/99

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On September 30, 1999 at 16:12:27, Helmut Conrady wrote:

>On September 30, 1999 at 12:52:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 30, 1999 at 09:52:37, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I think I´ve found a little Tablebase-Bug in Crafty 16.15. Look at this
>>>position for example:
>>>
>>>wKe5, e2, d2; bKa8, d5.
>>>
>>>After Kd5: there is a postion with PP vs P on
>>>the board and (with installesd tablebases!) I expected Crafty to show a
>>>mate in several moves. But he
>>>is calculating and calculting and shows after minutes something about
>>>+10.
>>>
>>>After Kd5: he announces a correct mate. This phenomenon took place when
>>>there is a pawn at the row next to the black pawn (Example: black f-pawn
>>>with
>>>white e or/and g-pawn) and the white pawn is at its beginning field.
>>>When
>>>you move this white pawn one or two squares above Crafty has no problem
>>>with showing the mate.
>>>
>>>Is it a problem of Crafty of 16.15 or a problem belonging to Craftys
>>>running under the Fritz GUI?
>>>
>>>Best wishes
>>>
>>>Helmut
>>
>>
>>I don't understand what you are asking.  Are you using "analysis mode"?  If so,
>>it _must_ search from the current position before it can get a tablebase hit.
>>And Kxd5 will definitely produce a mate in 14 score if you ask it to search
>>from the position you posted...
>>
>>I don't see how you would get a score for the position _prior_ to playing Kd5,
>>since it is white's move, and it has to search some move before it can probe
>>the databases...
>
>I ve tried to explain it exactly. When in the first position a white pawn stands
>on its first square Crafty isn t able to announce a mate (the Tb PP vs P is
>installed!) like Hiarcs or Comet B 04 do. When I put the white pawn e2 to e3
>Crafty has no problems to find a Mate. Please try it out.
>
>Helmut


I did and posted the output.  It announces mate in 14 instantly and plays the
move Kxd4 when doing so...  I can't reproduce your behavior at all.  It sounds
like either (a) you do _not_ have kppkp or if you do the name is wrong, the file
is corrupted or something else is wrong with it.  I have _all_ of the files here
and it has no problems with the position before Kxd4 or after the position.  It
says mate no matter what...



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