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Subject: Re: Ed is right with auto232! Incredible

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 23:18:52 09/30/99

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>Posted by Harald Faber on September 30, 1999 at 14:29:01:
>
>Hi all,
>this is what Ed wrote:
>
>I know now there is not a (big) problem other than that I have noticed the
>below list of weird things which are good to know for everybody who use
>auto232.
>
>#1. In rare cases I have seen Rebel's NPS drop with a factor of 3 during
>an auto232 match. Thus playing a match on a PII-450 the machine at some
>moment in the auto232 match the PC Rebel was running suddenly behaved
>as a PII-150 machine. The factor 3 is remarkable because it is an indication
>it smells to hardware and not to software.
>
>Of course the outcome of these matches are worthless and I wouldn't exclude
>the possibility such things also happen on the machines of Rebel opponents.
>The BIG problem is: how do you recognize it? Perhaps it happens a lot more
>because it is difficult to notice it. I think that for the future I will add
>some code to test the reliability of the program after each game.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>After Ed having published how to activate the autoplayer within Rebel10, I
>started a testmatch against the new Nimzo7.32 early in the morning.
>When I came back I saw Nimzo lead 2-0 and the 3rd game Nimzo was a piece up
>for 2 pawns. I watched this game and couldn't believe my eyes. Rebel was
>incredibly slow, only doing 24-30knps on my MMX166. Usually it is between 45 and
>60knps so I stopped this game and played "normal" to check if this was a position in
>which Rebel slows down because of deep threats and deep tactics like it happens
>sometimes. But nothing. I saw the normal 50knps.
>This of course explains why Rebel played some incredible bad moves in the 2
>games it lost as it didn't reach sufficient search depth.
>(BTW this is a way to recognize Rebel having played much slower)

I don't know if I should laugh or cry reading this. Are you sure there wasn't
any swapping taking place because of a too big hash table?

>My conclusion is that I will stop testing at least Rebel10 with auto232,

As far as I know it doesn't occur much. Maybe you should do more testing?

>and you guys who can't resist should carefully take a look at the games and the nps.

And I wonder about the "other" programs. Maybe they are caught too?

Ed




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