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Subject: Re: Faster Hardware benefits slow searchers or fast searchers more???

Author: James Robertson

Date: 09:34:06 10/01/99

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On October 01, 1999 at 02:35:48, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On October 01, 1999 at 02:07:07, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On September 30, 1999 at 16:50:33, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>
>>>On September 30, 1999 at 14:35:25, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  In the past i thought faster hardware would benefit slow searchers like
>>>>Chessmaster more than fast searchers like Fritz.  Now i'm more inclined to
>>>>believe that it makes more sense that faster hardware benefits fast searchers
>>>>more.  For the reason that positional ideas are for the most parts moves made
>>>>from practical experience/knowledge, that we can't always quite calculate.
>>>>However, faster hardware gives programs the ability in many instances to
>>>>actually be able to calculate the result.  So although i think Chessmaster is a
>>>>truly awesome engine especially against programs running up to 233Mhz I expct
>>>>that on a P450Mhz it will come in 3rd or 4th.
>>>
>>>
>>>As a general rule, faster hardware should favor the "slow" searchers.  This is
>>>especially true at blitz, where search depths are relatively shallow, and every
>>>extra ply makes a huge difference.
>>>
>>>Chess System Tal is a great example of this - it's relatively weak at
>>>blitz(Fritz would kill it) but pretty strong at 40/2 (probably about equal to
>>>Fritz).
>>
>>This kind of falls apart when you see the amazing lightning results Hiarcs 7.32
>>is having against all other program, Fritz included....
>>
>>James
>>
>
>
>Hi James,
>
>I'm a big fan of Hiarcs, too, but my experience so far is that Fritz is slightly
>stronger at blitz.  This is based on a few engine vs. engine matches I've played
>between them.  (~80 games so far at 5+1 time control, and Fritz is ahead by
>about 10 games.)  I know this isn't a large enough sample size to draw firm
>conclusions - please share any data you have.

The only data I have is the lightning (1 0, 1 1) results several people have
posted here.... Hiarcs seems to have a large lead.

I think your 80 games is a fairly good sample. Most people try to draw
conclusions after 10 games. :)

James

>
>By "lightning" are you referring to super-fast time controls, like 2+0?  I have
>no idea how Hiarcs performs there, but my money would be on Fritz...
>
>--Peter



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