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Subject: Re: Congratulations to Rebel Century

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:41:02 10/03/99

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On October 03, 1999 at 10:41:43, Albert Silver wrote:

>On October 03, 1999 at 09:32:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 03, 1999 at 04:42:40, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>>Posted by Lawrence S. Tamarkin on October 03, 1999 at 02:48:13:
>>>>
>>>>Congratulations to Rebel Century on its win against GM Scherbakov. We here at
>>>>the Marshall Chess Club Salute you! (I may just set up some match in the club,
>>>>involving an IM or GM, just for fun, but especially if Rebel company (Ed),
>>>>wants to draw a player from the NY chess mecca...
>>>
>>>You know I am always in for a challenge. And the Marshall Chess Club is
>>>quite a name to remember.
>>>
>>>>This makes me more excited about getting Rebel Century & studying with it (I
>>>>have long ago stopped playing with these programs), various positions out of
>>>>chess books, and my tournament games. Bigger book, custem levels, more
>>>>training features, test positons, utilities, etc, etc.  It is definately a fantastic
>>>>bargain, that we (I), look forward too.
>>>
>>>Don't tell me about it. The data on the cd is 620 Mb. It was quite difficult to
>>>decide what should be left out as the limit is 640 Mb. How can one handle that
>>>in one year? I wonder. Seems to me DVD has the future and will be required
>>>within 2-3 years.
>>>
>>>>I hope Rebel Century will keep winning (No GM has yet lost in 30 moves or less
>>>>to it:)), and that the GM's pride will keep them coming back for more, rather
>>>>than fear scaring them away!
>>>
>>>We shortly discussed the possibility of a re-match. In principal we agreed to
>>>that but of course we have to figure out the details in email first.
>>>
>>>About the game: I am pretty impressed by the attacking style. It sacrifices
>>>a piece for a promising king attack. Then later counting the pieces on the
>>>board Rebel is behind a full rook. Still it shows +3.xx, a dream game.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>
>>Rebel played well, obviously.  However this is _not_ a sac.  A sac is where you
>>give up material for positional gain.  This is a pure tactical combination as
>>it wins more material than it gives up...
>>
>
>Of course this all depends on the reasons for Rebel giving up the material in
>the first place. Objectively you're right of course, but if Rebel gave up
>material in a situation where it could NOT see the return of it's sacs but
>rather for reasons pertaining to positional elements (king highly exposed, or
>whatever) then it was a sac. If on the other hand it went into the line
>calculating the whole combination then yes, it was just (however nice) a
>combination. Ed can clear that up by giving us the eval and the main line when
>it went into it.
>
>                                  Albert Silver


I agree 100% with your definition.  I tried the position on Crafty and it
has a huge score after the move, and sees a + in material alone, not counting
the exposed king stuff...



>>
>>>
>>>>Larry - the chess software addict!



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