Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:42:06 10/03/99
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On October 03, 1999 at 15:45:18, Jeroen Noomen wrote: >On October 03, 1999 at 10:41:43, Albert Silver wrote: > >>On October 03, 1999 at 09:32:47, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 03, 1999 at 04:42:40, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>>Posted by Lawrence S. Tamarkin on October 03, 1999 at 02:48:13: >>>>> >>>>>Congratulations to Rebel Century on its win against GM Scherbakov. We here at >>>>>the Marshall Chess Club Salute you! (I may just set up some match in the club, >>>>>involving an IM or GM, just for fun, but especially if Rebel company (Ed), >>>>>wants to draw a player from the NY chess mecca... >>>> >>>>You know I am always in for a challenge. And the Marshall Chess Club is >>>>quite a name to remember. >>>> >>>>>This makes me more excited about getting Rebel Century & studying with it (I >>>>>have long ago stopped playing with these programs), various positions out of >>>>>chess books, and my tournament games. Bigger book, custem levels, more >>>>>training features, test positons, utilities, etc, etc. It is definately a fantastic >>>>>bargain, that we (I), look forward too. >>>> >>>>Don't tell me about it. The data on the cd is 620 Mb. It was quite difficult to >>>>decide what should be left out as the limit is 640 Mb. How can one handle that >>>>in one year? I wonder. Seems to me DVD has the future and will be required >>>>within 2-3 years. >>>> >>>>>I hope Rebel Century will keep winning (No GM has yet lost in 30 moves or less >>>>>to it:)), and that the GM's pride will keep them coming back for more, rather >>>>>than fear scaring them away! >>>> >>>>We shortly discussed the possibility of a re-match. In principal we agreed to >>>>that but of course we have to figure out the details in email first. >>>> >>>>About the game: I am pretty impressed by the attacking style. It sacrifices >>>>a piece for a promising king attack. Then later counting the pieces on the >>>>board Rebel is behind a full rook. Still it shows +3.xx, a dream game. >>>> >>>>Ed >>> >>> >>>Rebel played well, obviously. However this is _not_ a sac. A sac is where you >>>give up material for positional gain. This is a pure tactical combination as >>>it wins more material than it gives up... >>> >> >>Of course this all depends on the reasons for Rebel giving up the material in >>the first place. Objectively you're right of course, but if Rebel gave up >>material in a situation where it could NOT see the return of it's sacs but >>rather for reasons pertaining to positional elements (king highly exposed, or >>whatever) then it was a sac. If on the other hand it went into the line >>calculating the whole combination then yes, it was just (however nice) a >>combination. Ed can clear that up by giving us the eval and the main line when >>it went into it. >> > Albert Silver > >Hello Albert, > >If you count the number of plies from the move gxh6! until the >point the queen is won back, you'll see that it takes 10 full moves >before the black queen is lost. Furthermore, there is the 'quiet' move >Rf5!, which makes it a nice combination IMO. > >I would be pleased to know what other programs think of gxh6 and how >they evaluate this position. At least I would be extremely proud when >I could execute such a combination in one of my own games! > >Best regards, Jeroen I suspect most computers will find this. It took about 6 seconds on my quad xeon to see that this move is crushing...
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