Author: Howard Exner
Date: 19:25:19 10/03/99
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On October 03, 1999 at 16:31:28, Mark Young wrote: >On October 03, 1999 at 15:23:40, Howard Exner wrote: > >>On October 03, 1999 at 11:46:52, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>It is important to keep our prospective during this match, and not let the highs >>>from a win, or the lows from a loss skew our judgment. Rebels did win a nice >>>game, and has performed well in the match so for, but this latest win is nothing >>>more then another data point. It does not settle the debate of, do pc chess >>>programs play at a GM level at tournament time controls... >> >>The Gm challenge is more precisely a gage of how Rebel is doing in >>GM "match" play. > >And I never said other wise, but this match is being used to try and settle the >computer strength question, as their are not many games at this time control >with modern pc programs. If Rebel can play at a GM level then that answers the >question Answers what question? If it is your question from the above, "do pc chess programs play at a GM level at tournament time controls..." then again I say it will never answer that question. How could it, since the program is not even playing in a tournament? The emphasis is the distinction between match play vs tournament play. >that is now in debate, we only need one PC program to play at a GM >level to settle this debate, not every PC program. I think each program should stand on its own, therefore allowing for the individuality of each programmer. The other programs will have to come out of the woodwork and show us what they can do vs human GMs. This goes back to the old "cherry picking" theme of a few (or one in this case) representing the many. Not too long ago Ferret racked up a 4-0 score vs GMs at a decent game/30 time control. It somehow does not seem fair to Bruce Moreland's efforts that we now conclude "all programs will whoop the GMs at game/30". Maybe he has some unique stuff in his program that makes it that much different than another program. >It is not relevant if Rebel >is the strongest PC program or not, if it can performs at a GM level. > > A much different thing than a pc in tournament play. >>My opinion is that GM's will perform better vs computers in match play >>than in the more predominant tournament play. Hey, maybe we have another >>poll question here? :)
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