Author: Mark Young
Date: 21:40:47 10/03/99
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On October 03, 1999 at 22:25:19, Howard Exner wrote: >On October 03, 1999 at 16:31:28, Mark Young wrote: > >>On October 03, 1999 at 15:23:40, Howard Exner wrote: >> >>>On October 03, 1999 at 11:46:52, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>>It is important to keep our prospective during this match, and not let the highs >>>>from a win, or the lows from a loss skew our judgment. Rebels did win a nice >>>>game, and has performed well in the match so for, but this latest win is nothing >>>>more then another data point. It does not settle the debate of, do pc chess >>>>programs play at a GM level at tournament time controls... >>> >>>The Gm challenge is more precisely a gage of how Rebel is doing in >>>GM "match" play. >> >>And I never said other wise, but this match is being used to try and settle the >>computer strength question, as their are not many games at this time control >>with modern pc programs. If Rebel can play at a GM level then that answers the >>question > >Answers what question? If it is your question from the above, "do pc chess >programs play at a GM level at tournament time controls..." then again >I say it will never answer that question. How could it, since the program >is not even playing in a tournament? The emphasis is the distinction between >match play vs tournament play. > > >>that is now in debate, we only need one PC program to play at a GM >>level to settle this debate, not every PC program. > >I think each program should stand on its own, therefore allowing for the >individuality of each programmer. The other programs will have to come out of >the woodwork and show us what they can do vs human GMs. This goes back to the >old "cherry picking" theme of a few (or one in this case) representing the many. > >Not too long ago Ferret racked up a 4-0 score vs GMs >at a decent game/30 time control. >It somehow does not seem fair to Bruce Moreland's efforts that we now conclude >"all programs will whoop the GMs at game/30". Maybe he has some unique stuff in >his program that makes it that much different than another program. > >>It is not relevant if Rebel >>is the strongest PC program or not, if it can performs at a GM level. >> >> A much different thing than a pc in tournament play. >>>My opinion is that GM's will perform better vs computers in match play >>>than in the more predominant tournament play. Hey, maybe we have another >>>poll question here? :) I don't know what you are drinking but I want some. I will not post to your comments because it is clear you have not even read what I posted, or you are running with blinders on full.
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