Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Congratulations to Rebel Century

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 09:24:57 10/04/99

Go up one level in this thread


On October 04, 1999 at 10:43:00, Paulo Soares wrote:

>On October 04, 1999 at 03:47:40, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>>Posted by Robert Hyatt on October 03, 1999 at 18:39:17:
>>
>>>Most books on tactics define 'sacrifice' as giving up material for some sort
>>>of compensation (either positional or long term tactical chances).  They
>>>define 'combination' as a sequence of captures resulting in a gain of
>>>material.
>>>
>>>in this game, my material score is always > 0 in the position you give,
>>>meaning
>>>that Crafty sees more material coming back to it than it gives up with the
>>>original rook capture.  That seems to better fit a 'combination'.
>>>
>>>I will agree that several books talk about 'queen sacrifices' when they are
>>>not really sacrifices... as giving up a queen to win the opponent's king gets
>>>more material back than it gives up...
>>>
>>>But I like the term 'combination' here...  and usually use the term sacrifice
>>>as in 'sacrificing the exchange'... after the rxc3 bxc3 type sac in many
>>>Sicilian variations, black is 2 pawns (the exchange) down, yet gets lots
>>>of compensation for that material, hopefully...  Or in sacrificing a pawn
>>>(such as playing a4-a3 to force your opponent to play bxa3 and end up with
>>>three isolated pawns that you hope you can eventually win, and which you
>>>_know_ can not be used to create a passed pawn...
>>>
>>>Mainly semantics...  But if we call this a sacrifice, then I see one of these
>>>every 2 games or so...  IE QxR RxQ BxR, because after QxR RxQ I am definitely
>>>down 4 pawns, but after the third move I am up a pawn...
>>>
>>>
>>>Bob
>>
>>Then tell me the difference between a "positional sacrifice", and a "sacrifice".
>>
>>Anyway here is Jeroen Noomen's view (and analysis of the game in PGN)
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>Rebel Century - GM R. Sherbakov      Monthly GM Challenge
>>---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Before the game we decided to go for 1. e4! No more quiet, positional chess,
>>just open positions and play. Ruslan Sherbakov plays the Sicilian Defence,
>>the Richter Rauzer variation in particular. Recently I have filled Rebel's
>>opening book with lots of ideas in this variation, coming from Peter Wells's
>>excellent book 'The complete Richter Rauzer'. We were not disappointed!
>>
>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 Be7
>>8. O-O-O Nxd4 9. Qxd4 O-O 10. f4 Qa5 11. Bc4 Bd7 12. e5 dxe5 13. Qxe5!
>>(An excellent choice. Everybody plays 13 fxe5, which is objectively stronger.
>>But that move leads to a slightly better ending for White, and quite dull
>>positions. Rebel's choice might be less strong from a theoretical point of view,
>>but for a computer the resulting position is much easier to play. Furthermore,
>>the queens stay on the board, leaving a lot to play for)
>>13. ... Qb6 14. Qe2 Qc7?!  (A very strange move. I don't know if this has
>>been played before, but in the afore mentioned book by Peter Wells 14 ...
>>Rad8 is given, leading to equal play. A game between Karpov and Kamsky -
>>Buenos Aires 1994 - continued 15 Ne4 Nd5! and Black got excellent
>>compensation for the sacrificed pawn. Besides, 15 f5? would be bad on
>>account of 15 .... Qc5! Was Sherbakov afraid of shedding a pawn against a
>>computer? Maybe.... But his move is clearly wrong, since now Rebel can
>>
>>continue....) 
>>15. f5!  (... as 15 ... Qc5 is now impossible: 16 Bxf6 wins a piece)  15.
>>...  h6? 
>>(And this is already a big mistake)  16. Rxd7!  (Whoops! Clearly not the way
>>to handle a computer....)  16. ... Qxd7 17. fxe6 Qc7 18. Bxf6 Bxf6 19. Nd5 Bg5+
>>20. Kb1 Qd6 21. exf7+ Kh8 22. h4  (White has two pawns for the exchange, a
>>wonderful bishop on c4, a passed pawn on f7, a giant knight on d5 and also
>>the black pieces are not cooperating very well. It is clear who has the
>>advantage here!)
>>22. ... b5 23. hxg5 bxc4 24. gxh6!!  (Fantastic! Rebel sacrifices a knight,
>>in order to get at the black king) 24. ... Qxd5?  (The only way to keep on
>>playing was to try 24 ... g6 25 Qf3) 
>>25. hxg7+ Kxg7 26. Qg4+ Kf6 27. Rf1+ Ke7 28. Rf5!  (This quiet move is the
>>big point of the knight sac. The rook joins the attack with decisive effect)
>>28. ... Qe6 29. Qh4+ Kd7 30. Qd4+  Kc7 31. Qc5+ Kb7 32. Qb4+!  (A wonderful
>>queen manoeuvre, after which black is unable to avoid the loss of his queen)
>>32. ... Kc7 33. Rc5+ Qc6  (Even worse is Kd7 34 Qb7+)   34. Qxc4 Qxc5 35.
>>Qxc5+   (The
>>rest is easy. Rebel mops it up without any trouble)  35. ... Kd7 36. c4 Ke6
>>37. Qd5+ Kf6 38. Qb7 Kg7 39. c5 Rad8 40. Qxa7 Rxf7 41. Qa4 Rd2 42. Qg4+ Kf8
>>43. a4 Rff2 44. Qb4 Ke8 45. g4 Rd1+ 46. Ka2 Rff1 47. c6 Ra1+
>>48. Kb3 Rf3+ 49. Kc2 Rf2+ 50. Kd3  and Sherbakov resigned.  1  -  0
>>
>>Congrats to Ed and especially Rebel - of course - for this great
>>performance. A wonderful game, which I enjoyed very much. And I was pleased
>>to see that the preparation for this match worked so well. Until next time!
>>
>>Jeroen Noomen
>
>Excellent game, in which the opening was fundamental. I apologize for
>insisting in speaking on that, but I was very displeased with the openings
>that Rebel was playing, mainly against GM Hoffman, and I found difficult
>that Jeroen Noomen  got to solve short term this problem. The one that more
>leaves me satisfied it is that 13.Qxe5!  shows that a  theorical inferior move,
>can be better for a program in a game against a human. I thought that a GM
>could play a theorical inferior move against a program, obtaining advantage
>for the type of resulting position, but I never imagined the opposite.
>I know that it is still early to arrive to definitive conclusions,
>but what left me more satisfied  went the form with that Rebel Team reacted
>to the adversities.
>
>Paulo

13.Qxe5?! is as inferior as anti-GM. Make things complicated is a good
strategy in the human-comp area.

Ed



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.