Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 14:33:52 10/04/99
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On October 03, 1999 at 05:30:00, odell hall wrote: [snip] > Dann I don't know if I can buy the line that something must be at stake for >the game to be real. Why don't you try beating or even drawing a grandmaster >under any circumstance. What's at stake is usually Ego, no grandmaster likes to >lose, how do you think they got to be grandmasters in the first place?? I do not mean that money has to be on the line (although it is with Ed's contests). Only that it has to be a public contest where something is on the line (reputation, whatever). GM's play micros all the time on FICS and ICC, etc., but I think those results have no meaning because we have no idea what they are after. Are they just testing out some ideas? Are they just being silly and toying around? That is what I mean by "something has to be on the line." I play very differently when I am just goofing around compared to when I am serious. >Grandmasters just don't give away games, under any circumstance, unless ofcourse >they are experimenting on icc or something, But an official event like the Wcc99 >where millions of people are watching, i don't care if one penny is on the line, >they are going to play their hardest. So this money ideal is beloney to me. I never said anything about money. Indeed, reputation is probably a lot more important. >Also I don't need more games, all I need is my good common sense, when I see a >programmer like Schredder Drawing World champion (2700+) Karpov, And Rebel >Drawing Annand, And Fritz beating 2600+ Sokolov, this is enough for me , I know >that no international master could achieve such results, and if he has please >let me know!, I will come back and retract all that I have said. If you have a chess database, then look it up. There are literally thousands of results like these. How do you think that IM's become GM's? They *must* beat the GM's to achieve that level. And we know that they do become GM's, or GM's would not exist. If you have enough proof, then I will say that you are convinced and that is fine. I require mathematical proof to believe it. Quite frankly, they *might* be GM's. I really have no idea. In any case, they can kick my butt, so they are strong enough for me. ;-)
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