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Subject: Re: Congratulations to Rebel Century

Author: blass uri

Date: 01:09:45 10/05/99

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On October 04, 1999 at 22:14:01, Stephen A. Boak wrote:

>On October 04, 1999 at 20:24:14, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On October 04, 1999 at 15:11:45, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>This might be a really interesting position to check out.  Did you record it?
>>
>>Here is the relevant position:
>>7k/4K2p/7P/3p4/8/4Q3/1q6/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Fritz5 find the right move Ke6(leading to mate) but the evaluation is strange
>>evaluations of Fritz5:
>>
>>depth 8  0.00
>>depth 9  5.16
>>depth 10 4.81
>>depth 11 4.50
>>depth 12 4.00
>>depth 13 3.69
>>depth 14 3.38
>>depth 15 3.06
>>depth 16 2.75
>>depth 17 2.44
>>depth 18 2.13
>>depth 19 1.81
>>
>>Uri
>
>Seems like a bug (unintentional and bad) to me, not a feature.  :)
>Rebel10c finds White Ke6 in a split second, and after 13 seconds, on ply 9.00 it
>finds and announces Mate in 8 for White.  During the earlier ply searches, and
>until the mate is discovered, it shows approx 1/3 pawn advantage for White.
>
>I wouldn't extrapolate what intentionally programmed features of the program
>might cause this strange behavior of Fritz (a mix of Brute Force with Selective
>Search, for one example) but instead would chalk it up to a bug in Fritz's
>programming.  If Fritz has reached 19 plies without discovering the mate (15
>plies only), there is obviously something wrong (my opinion only) with the
>working of Fritz (whether intentional or unintentional).  Maybe there is more
>than one (or more than one successive) quiet move by white in the mate, which
>cause Fritz to miss it (null-mover problem?).

Ke6 threats nothing.
Try the position after Ke6 with white to move and you can see that it is a null
move problem

Uri



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