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Subject: Re: Junior5 blind? Questioon for Uri

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:58:15 10/05/99

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On October 05, 1999 at 15:15:01, John Stanback wrote:

>On October 05, 1999 at 01:14:03, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>I remember I have heard that Junior has problems with "winning" pawns on a2/a7
>>and h2/h7. I couldn't imagine. Now I have seen it with my own eyes:
>>
>>[Event "Chessnet"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "????.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "King 2.55"]
>>[Black "Junior 5"]
>>[Result "*"]
>>[ECO "D49"]
>>[PlyCount "43"]
>>
>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 c6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 b5 8. Bd3
>>a6 9. e4 c5 10. e5 cxd4 11. Nxb5 Nxe5 12. Nxe5 axb5 13. Qf3 Bb4+ 14. Ke2 Rb8
>>15. Nc6 Bb7 16. Bf4 Qd7 17. Bxb5 O-O 18. Bxb8 Rxb8 19. Rhc1 Bd6 20. Kf1 Bxc6
>>21. Bxc6 Qa7 22. Rc2 *
>>
>>Now Junior5 takes the Ph2 and only is down with -1.00. After 23.g3 h5 (-1.32)
>>24.Kg2 Ng4 (-1.40) 25.Rd1 Rf8 (-1.55)
>>
>>Black has some problems getting the bishop back into the game...
>>
>>So Uri, what does your latest Junior version (5.9?) play, also take the pawn?
>>
>>And I wonder which other programs take this pawn and which avoid this trap?
>
>Zarkov takes about 10 milliseconds to switch from Bxh2 to Rc8 :).
>
>John


Crafty _never_ considers Bxh2:

         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.00  -2.19   22. ... Qc7
                1->   0.00  -2.19   22. ... Qc7
                2     0.00  -2.32   22. ... Qc7 23. Qd3
                2     0.01  -2.31   22. ... Qa6+ 23. Kg1 d3
                2->   0.01  -2.31   22. ... Qa6+ 23. Kg1 d3
                3     0.02  -2.48   22. ... Qa6+ 23. Kg1 Qc8 24. Qd3
                3     0.03  -2.31   22. ... Qc7 23. Qd3 Bb4
                3     0.03  -2.30   22. ... Qe7 23. Qd3 Be5
                3->   0.03  -2.30   22. ... Qe7 23. Qd3 Be5
                4     0.04  -2.39   22. ... Qe7 23. Qd3 Be5 24. Kg1
                4     0.06  -2.35   22. ... Qc7 23. Qd3 Rb6 24. Bd5
                4->   0.08  -2.35   22. ... Qc7 23. Qd3 Rb6 24. Bd5
                5     0.12  -2.33   22. ... Qc7 23. Qd3 Be5 24. Bd5 Qd6


It has an eval term to stop that nonsense.  Many programs don't, still.



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