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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 12.0 - Fritz 5.32, Game 1, 1-0

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 07:00:37 10/08/99

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On October 08, 1999 at 08:35:00, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 07, 1999 at 23:41:04, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 07, 1999 at 10:27:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 07, 1999 at 00:45:55, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>(talking about Crafty)
>>
>>>>* It is not designed to play a game with ponder=off
>>>
>>>true...
>>>
>>>>* It is not designed for slow computers
>>>
>>>
>>>true...
>>>
>>>>* It is not designed for 32 bits computers.
>>>>
>>>
>>>true, but it plays just fine on 32 bit computers...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Am I correct, or is one of the above points wrong?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>depends on the point you make with the point.  It is designed around
>>>64 bit machines.  It plays fine on decent 32 bit machines.  Which is
>>>why I test only on my PII/xeon...
>>
>>
>>So in the case somebody wants to play Tiger against Crafty (played on two
>>identical PCs), and wants a good number of games in a reasonnable amount of
>>time, what would be the minimum requirements you would consider as fair for your
>>program?
>>
>>I mean which time control and which processor speed, or which combination of the
>>two?
>>
>>(Personally I have no requirement, except that the game should not be shorter
>>than game in 4. Apart from that I would be satisified with any time control at
>>any processor speed)
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>
>all that I particularly care about is that the games be played on two machines
>of roughly comparable speeds/memory.  Other minor considerations:   (1) use
>crafty's book.  Not the Fritz book, the Hiarcs book, the Genius book, or any
>other book.  Put the tablebases on hard drive, not on a CD, as that will kill
>it when it starts probing in the search.
>
>Other than that, anything is fine.  Using two machines, ponder=off is not
>needed.  The rest is just common sense.  Crafty has stuff in its book that
>helps it choose which line to play.  Using other books means that they are
>running using the Fritz gui, which means _CRAFTY_ doesn't make the opening
>moves at all, it has no control until out of book.  I would _love_ to be
>able to choose my opponent's opening moves.  :)

In Fritz it is possible to use a book based on human theory. In fact, the
General book that comes standard with Fritz 5.32 is made like this, with
"aseptic" GM games. When using such a book, Crafty is not playing Fritz's
opening lines and I don't see how it would be at a disadvantage against other
programs that use the same kind of untuned book, Fritz for instance.

Enrique





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