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Subject: Re: Give proof ! Don't just make statements !!!

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 07:38:06 10/08/99

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On October 07, 1999 at 17:09:03, Laurence Chen wrote:

>On October 07, 1999 at 13:30:52, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>There is only one flaw in your reasonnning about relative strenght of bishops
>>and knights: this is not like a case of 1+1= 2 or 3. Precisely because it is not
>>that discussions on this stuff have sense and are possible. Your argument about
>>mobility is very old and surely have some sense, but not all the sense you seem
>>to give to it. And it has not so much proofs as those you ask from Marc. You say
>>he is talking "hot air". Why? So only a talk accompanied with "facts" is not hot
>>air? So a piece of debate and reasonning cannot exist without "facts"? Facts say
>>that nothing is fully demostrated in chess, except that if you lose the king you
>>lose the game. That is the reason so much changes are produced all days in
>>openning theory and even in endings. That is the reason so many differents ways
>>to win or lose appears all days.
>>In concrete, I think that something is not all the time taken into account
>>respect knights strenght and that thing is his vicious capacity to attack
>>several point at the same time. A bishop has long range, but there is something
>>dull in the obvious way it attacks, always in straigh line. You just put your
>>pawns so and so and the bishop lose track. Even because the obstacle of your own
>>pawns sometime becomes unseful and even a hindae of the position. A knight, on
>>he contrary, has enormous flexibility to move over his and enemy pieces. Slowly
>>as he jump, a knight can become a nigtmare to face in even an ending. I think
>>this sould be taken into account before to repeat the old saying about bishop
>>superiority
>>Fernando
>Hi Fernando,
>  I believe you misunderstood my post. I never claimed that a Bishop is superior
>to a Knight, I only cited examples where a Bishop or a Knight may be the
>superior piece, and this is dependent on the PAWNS in the chessboard. That's my
>whole argument, the dependency of PAWNS to define the topology of a chess
>position, which I believe supports the view of Philidor, the pawns are the soul
>of chess. To say that knights and pawns are soul of chess, is absolutely wrong
>and there's no truism to such statement, I could even make such a statement
>like, the Rooks and pawns are the soul of chess !!!
>Laurence

Hi L:
Maybe you are right and I missunderstood. If such is he case, my apologies. Yes,
pawns are the squeleton of chess positions.
Cheers
F



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