Author: odell hall
Date: 14:47:05 10/09/99
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On October 09, 1999 at 16:02:36, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On October 09, 1999 at 15:03:25, odell hall wrote: > >>Hi CCC >> >> I simply could not resist the Temptation to post this brilliant win against >>Junior5.0 inspite of my reluctance due to some recent rude accusatory Reponses I >>got to a Post of mine regarding a hiarcs7 Loss. I decided that it really doesn't >>matter whatever anyone believes this game or not, I had to share it in the hopes >>that maybe one or two people will appreciate the game, and maybe some computer >>scientist could use this game to improve their program. I am not exactly sure >>what "weakness" this game illustrates about computer programs, whatever the >>So-called "horizon effect" is in effect here or what. All I know is that this is >>my very first win out of maybe a hundred serious games against various strong >>computer programs, since I got my Amd 350. I doubt that even deepblue will find >>the key moves here, particularly the intuitive Sacrifice 21. h6!!!! also 32. >>Nxf7!! so far none of my programs was able to find these moves. Also I noticed >>that Chessmaster6000 was the only program to come up with a believable defense >>to my attack with the Strong 23...Rg8!! ofcourse Junior played the inferior >>23..h6?? . I notice most programs think they are way ahead here when infact, I >>believe there is no real defense, Probally Chessmasters 23..Rg8 is the best try. >> I would be very interested in some comments or observations about the game, But >>please don't comment if your going to accuse me of fabricating the Game!!! I >>am not in the mood for any long drawn out arguments, and it really isn't >>important anyway. But I will tell you one thing most of the key moves no >>computer can find.!! Here is the game > >You didn't include time control information. > >I kind of futzed through the game. The big thing I notice is that 32. f5 is >also crushing, the doorbell rang when I was analyzing move 32 and when I came >back it was failing high at +5. I didn't pay much attention to the PV but it >looks like white wins a lot of material. > >32. Nxf7 wins as well as that or better, after 32. ... Kxf7, Qh5+ is +8 a minute >or so later. > >23. ... Rg8 is illegal as far as I can tell. > >In the game is 24. ... f5 a defense? > >I think Junior played OK, sometimes you get attacked and have to do the best you >can. The time control is listed at the top of the Pgn file, it was 40 moves in 1 hour, you are correct about move 23.. apparently I had chessmaster analyze the wrong position, probally 23..h6 is the only move!! I am curious did ferret come up with any better defense for black? Also I wonder if there is a computer in existence that would see 21 H6!!! as a good move. I think maybe a grandmaster would not have played 21.. Bxd4 accepting the sacrifice. I guess this is a true sacrifice according to the human definition of the term, It was made on purely intuitive grounds. Ofcourse I did not see that I would have mate. > >bruce
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