Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 00:09:40 10/12/99
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On October 12, 1999 at 01:55:22, Micheal Cummings wrote: >They have nothing to gain or lose now anyway. DB had not been around for quite a >long time, programs have advanced as too technology. I would be interested in >seeing Shredder and your program ferret play DB using WCCC99 hardware. They totally have stuff to lose. People still remember that match. If you were to pick some random person off the street, there is a good chance that they will "know" that A) DB is the best chess entity on the planet, B)IBM built the thing. >The point I am trying to put across is that DB does not beat humans players >clearly. I think that the top 5 programs at WCCC99 can beat DB, maybe not on a >regular basis. But with technology, expecially computers advancing ever single >day, DB will be old hat. Everyone has an opinion about this, but nobody has any significant evidence. It's why I stay in the middle. I will not shower Hsu and Campbell with gold coins, but when I hear micro programmers make macho statements I want to puke. The fact is that we don't have enough evidence from them to know how strong their thing is. Do I like this? No way. Do I think that their failure to allow their thing to play like a real player means that it must suck? Nope. >If Hsu and his team ever make statements, then they will have to back them up, >escpecially these days. Whatever. They beat the world champion with the whole internet watching. I don't think that they should have to endure much posturing from others, the fact is that nobody has enough stature to call them out. And when someone does attain enough stature I think DB will simply not exist. Which is the real shame of this -- the rest of this are going to have to compete with a non-existent program for the next twenty years. You can't beat something that doesn't exist, and I think that this fact will discourage some programmers, and perhaps some event sponsors. Nobody will take a computer event seriously if DB isn't there, and if DB is never there, well, you get the picture. >I think the way computer chess should go is in developing and making programs >and hardware in which we can all have access to on the market that can be at the >level of GM's and hopefully beat them regularly. If someone wants to use a super-computer, more power to them, literally. bruce
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