Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:05:19 10/12/99
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On October 12, 1999 at 14:39:25, odell hall wrote: >On October 12, 1999 at 13:37:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On October 12, 1999 at 11:57:36, Alberto Rezza wrote: >> >>>On October 12, 1999 at 09:13:00, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>how would it make them "smaller" to correct a statement that was made in >>>>error by someone else? The web-based DB Junior is nothing like the real >>>>DB Junior. I think they were perfectly within proper bounds to make that >>>>clear... >>> >>>As Dan said, >>>>If they will not play again they should keep quiet. >>> >>>And what is it that they said? They said: >>>>(..) or Ed Schröder has misused this opportunity at will, to make false >advertisement for his program. >>> >>>This is not very far from calling Ed a liar. And it does make them very, very >>>much smaller. All this after showing something that had "DBJ" written on it, >>>then when it loses saying that it was not the real DBJ. >>> >>>It seems very likely that there were no falsities in the whole story, only >>>misunderstandings. But these misunderstanding are caused by the DB team and >>>their whole attitude of secrecy. This would not happen if they were more open >>>about DB, and if they let it play - or at least if, whey they show a DB box, >>>they were kind enough to say what it is and what it is not. >> >>I disagree there. Initially, it was a misunderstanding. I corrected that >>right here in CCC. To continue to claim that they beat "Deep Blue Junior" >>_after_ having it explained was a bad idea. Because Hsu knows what goes on >>here. He saw the original post, he saw my response, and then he saw no effort >>to retract the claim. >> >>It should have been retracted, IMHO. It was wrong. totally wrong. And after >>having it pointed out, what reason would there be to keep making it? >> >>> >>>Ed certainly cannot be blamed. The DB team should be ashamed of what they said. >>> >>>Alberto >> >> >>Baloney. They should be ashamed for correcting an obviously incorrect >>statement, one that had been fully explained by me already? Someone calls >>you "nothing but a waterboy for the local college football team..." I come >>along and say "Not true, I happen to know that he is a programmer for ... >>company" and the waterboy claim isn't retracted. Would _you_ respond to set >>the record straight, or just 'let it stand"??? >> >>I'd respond, were it me. Hsu did... > > > > >Let me ask this Dr. Hyatt ? Is there a Reason why Ed Schroeder Should Take your >word for it that the Deepblue he played at paderborn Was not the "real Deepblue" >? Are you a member of the Deepblue Team? Or what is your special relationship To >Deepblue? If I was Ed, I would want to hear this news from Someone that I Knew >was a representative of Deepblue and therefore had inside information about it. Sure there is a good reason. I _specifically_ said I had asked Hsu what the "deep blue junior thing" at the WCCC really was. And I reported _exactly_ what Hsu responded to me with as an answer. I doubt you can get more 'inside' than that... especially when I _said_ that it had come from Hsu. I'm not generally known to make up things. My "special relationship" (if it can be called that) is that I ask them questions, sometimes they choose to answer. Sometimes they don't. Any more questions?
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