Author: odell hall
Date: 16:25:11 10/12/99
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On October 12, 1999 at 18:05:19, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 12, 1999 at 14:39:25, odell hall wrote: > >>On October 12, 1999 at 13:37:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 12, 1999 at 11:57:36, Alberto Rezza wrote: >>> >>>>On October 12, 1999 at 09:13:00, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>how would it make them "smaller" to correct a statement that was made in >>>>>error by someone else? The web-based DB Junior is nothing like the real >>>>>DB Junior. I think they were perfectly within proper bounds to make that >>>>>clear... >>>> >>>>As Dan said, >>>>>If they will not play again they should keep quiet. >>>> >>>>And what is it that they said? They said: >>>>>(..) or Ed Schröder has misused this opportunity at will, to make false >advertisement for his program. >>>> >>>>This is not very far from calling Ed a liar. And it does make them very, very >>>>much smaller. All this after showing something that had "DBJ" written on it, >>>>then when it loses saying that it was not the real DBJ. >>>> >>>>It seems very likely that there were no falsities in the whole story, only >>>>misunderstandings. But these misunderstanding are caused by the DB team and >>>>their whole attitude of secrecy. This would not happen if they were more open >>>>about DB, and if they let it play - or at least if, whey they show a DB box, >>>>they were kind enough to say what it is and what it is not. >>> >>>I disagree there. Initially, it was a misunderstanding. I corrected that >>>right here in CCC. To continue to claim that they beat "Deep Blue Junior" >>>_after_ having it explained was a bad idea. Because Hsu knows what goes on >>>here. He saw the original post, he saw my response, and then he saw no effort >>>to retract the claim. >>> >>>It should have been retracted, IMHO. It was wrong. totally wrong. And after >>>having it pointed out, what reason would there be to keep making it? >>> >>>> >>>>Ed certainly cannot be blamed. The DB team should be ashamed of what they said. >>>> >>>>Alberto >>> >>> >>>Baloney. They should be ashamed for correcting an obviously incorrect >>>statement, one that had been fully explained by me already? Someone calls >>>you "nothing but a waterboy for the local college football team..." I come >>>along and say "Not true, I happen to know that he is a programmer for ... >>>company" and the waterboy claim isn't retracted. Would _you_ respond to set >>>the record straight, or just 'let it stand"??? >>> >>>I'd respond, were it me. Hsu did... >> >> >> >> >>Let me ask this Dr. Hyatt ? Is there a Reason why Ed Schroeder Should Take your >>word for it that the Deepblue he played at paderborn Was not the "real Deepblue" >>? Are you a member of the Deepblue Team? Or what is your special relationship To >>Deepblue? If I was Ed, I would want to hear this news from Someone that I Knew >>was a representative of Deepblue and therefore had inside information about it. > > >Sure there is a good reason. I _specifically_ said I had asked Hsu what the >"deep blue junior thing" at the WCCC really was. And I reported _exactly_ >what Hsu responded to me with as an answer. > >I doubt you can get more 'inside' than that... especially when I _said_ that >it had come from Hsu. I'm not generally known to make up things. My "special >relationship" (if it can be called that) is that I ask them questions, sometimes >they choose to answer. Sometimes they don't. > >Any more questions? No I was not trying to imply that you were not being honest with Ed, I only meant that you may have made statements which were conjecture, or going by something you had read.
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