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Subject: Re: DB will never play with REBEL, they simple are afraid no to do well

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:24:05 10/12/99

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On October 12, 1999 at 19:42:44, blass uri wrote:
[snip]
>Their behavior proves that they are not interested in public opinion.
>If they want to get respect and Deep blue Junior is really better than the
>commercials then they can get the respect by playing against commercial programs
>many games and proving a clear superiority.
>
>The fact that they do not do it is a proof that they are not interested in
>public opinion.
Campbell and Hsu work for someone: IBM.  The machine (I am sure) belongs to IBM
and not to them.  I suspect it they had their druthers, Deep Blue would play on
the internet, and kick some high quality opponents in the posterior.  However,
IBM has nothing to gain from this and everything to lose.  Consider also, a
machine like the RS/6000 used in the Deep Blue experiment can make millions of
dollars per year in revenue.  (Just consider the gains from Simplex optimization
for a single oil refinery, for example.)  Now, it might be a ton of fun to play
chess with it on the internet but that's not really even good science.  Since
the conditions would be totally uncontrolled all you would get out of it is
"fun."  That's some mighty expensive fun.

I see no arrogance.  I see no air of superiority or disdain.  I see cold, hard,
economic facts.  On the other hand, IBM is one of the top reasearch institutions
in the world.  They even produced an incredible chess machine (hint: we're
talking about it right now some two years since it was publicly available so it
must have been pretty interesting).  Their list of IBM Fellows reads like a
"Who's who of science."  The number of innovations and great ideas that spring
from IBM reasearch is astonishing.  I do lots of research looking for ways to
optimize SQL queries.  You would be amazed at how often top quality research is
found to be available online at IBM sites.

I think a lot of people are a bit miffed.  After all, we had what I consider the
8th wonder of the world pulled out from under our noses before we got to play
with it.  But it's not our toy, nor does it even belong to the ones who were
playing with it -- yes not even to the ones who built it.

And the one who owns it can do anything he wants to with it -- even make money
(or engage in scientific research endeavors).
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