Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 18:25:31 10/12/99
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On October 12, 1999 at 19:17:19, Howard Exner wrote: >On October 12, 1999 at 17:47:12, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>Regarding DB Jr in Paderborn, the thing was running over the net on a machine >>out in the lobby, and I believe that what happened is that a few people were >>taking laptops out there. >> >>I was invited to do this by one of the other programmers, which was a very nice >>offer, and I declined. >> >>The idea didn't appeal to me at the time, and I wasn't able to express at the >>time why I didn't want to mess with the thing. It is still difficult for me to >>say. > >At that time were you made aware of the Hsu/Campbell request of >prohibiting computer play against Deep Blue Junior? Good question. I don't remember what I knew or when I knew it, but I do know that I knew something sometime. I remember getting the idea that the machine was supposed to have been supervised in order to prevent the computer chess guys from getting at it, but I never figured out what it was actually there for then. If I had wanted to play it I would have ignored all of this and played it, and if someone had tried to kick me off of it because I was sitting there in front of the web page with a lap-top, I would have gotten off the machine and laughed my butt off for about half an hour. I doubt that I would have published the games. >>I think that I would rather play their best version, or at least a version that >>I can describe accurately after the game, rather than play some computer museum >>dinky-ass lobby version. > >Also, was it made public by those given permission to demonstate Deep Blue >Junior that this was a "dumbed down version" ? I don't know that we were ever officially told everything, I just got an idea that someone had an open terminal that they really shouldn't have had access to. >These seem to be the main points made by Hsu/Campbell, that it was a >"dumbed down version"(much like one sees on the chess servers with Crafty, >where it is called Dumbo, Dorkus, Dingbat ... as opposed to the Real Crafty >running at full throttle) that was prohibited to play against other >computers. Lack of proper labelling causes any reporting to be wrong, but the frenzy is understandable since we are starved for any first-hand knowledge. As I've said a bunch of times, I'm through worrying about DB. If they want to publish, fine. If they want to pseudo-publish through Bob, or put out articles describing the hardware but saying nothing above beginner level about the chess performance, I'm not even going to read the stuff. I find it all to be monumentally boring and a waste of time. I'd rather read the trolls on r.g.c.c. than that. The whole thing up to this point has been a giant farce. bruce
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