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Subject: Re: Benefit of tablebases seems to be 2 points!?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:17:59 10/13/99

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On October 13, 1999 at 08:54:43, Jouni Uski wrote:

>On October 13, 1999 at 08:09:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 1999 at 01:10:30, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On October 13, 1999 at 01:04:05, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes from latest SSDF list You see that Hiarcs7.32 with tablebases is only
>>>>2 points over Hiarcs7 without them. Hmm. Not much benefit from 100+ MB packed
>>>>data...
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>Argh!!!
>>>The question is how much below would Hiarcs7.32 be WITHOUT the tablebases...
>>
>>
>>Even more important, how would _other_ programs do?  Hiarcs has an apparently
>>very conservative approach to probing in the search, based on some numbers that
>>were posted here recently.  It is not surprising that tablebases don't make any
>>difference given that circumstance.
>
>Bob. I just installed Crafty 16.15 (TB version) under Fritz5.32. It's
>unbelievable how Crafty can access TB dynamically (in search) without slowing
>NPS much.
>How is this possible? I remember when I tested same thing with Mchess 7 NPS
>go down to about 1knps (it was P90 PC then).
>
>Jouni

Several things.  (1) Eugene's buffering code is quite good;  (2) if you only
probe _after_ a capture, and only when pieces <= 5, the probes aren't done
a ridiculous number of times.  (3) I did a _lot_ of testing to find a way to
steadily increase the depth at which probes occur without smashing the search
back to 1K nps as you mentioned.

And don't forget that a CD will kill me.  And if you really want to see it
probe, try 10K rpm LVDS drives at 80 mbytes/second transfer rate.



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