Author: Don Prohaska
Date: 08:51:35 10/13/99
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I don't know whether this has been discussed before, but if you send a communication to someone who writes for publications, such as a reporter, can you expect that communication to be kept confidential? Unless both of you agree that it is off the record. I think some time back this argument was made in another situation in terms of who was a journalist. On October 13, 1999 at 02:55:14, Ed Schröder wrote: >>Posted by Amir Ban on October 12, 1999 at 18:51:25: > >>>Rebel Company about the accusations: >>> >>> >>>We were not aware of any restriction that playing against Deep Blue Junior >>>was forbidden. Deep Blue Junior was there and we took the opportunity to find out >>>more about this program. The result was posted as NEWS no more no less and we >>>don't have (nor had) any intention to include Rebel's victory over Deep Blue >>>Junior in our advertisements. >>> >>> >>>We can't confirm the "one second" time control of Deep Blue Junior. Deep Blue >>>Junior indeed played on a "one second" time control using its default time >>>control but raising the time control caused Deep Blue Junior to think a lot >>>longer (up to 10-15 seconds). >>> >> >>This point is important, and I didn't see it discussed. If so, Hsu is >>misinformed about what features were made available to users of DBjr, and >>Rebel played a version that was much stronger than he thought. I don't remember if >>they played equal time controls, but if they did, it may well be that the >>contest was fair or close to fair (we need to assume that the DBjr server was >>not overloaded, which to me seems likely, because it was hardly used >>intensively at the stations I saw in Paderborn). > >DB-JR played on 5/all Rebel on 10/all. In the end both programs used the same >amount of time for the games. I clearly remember a situation that DB-JR went >into panic-time and used at least 30 seconds for its move. The DB-JR time >control behavior was as normal as you can expect from a computer chess program >playing a 5/all blitz game. > >>I wouldn't consider Rebel beating DBjr a surprise. Even assuming full-DB to be >>the equal of Kasparov (doubtful), DBjr should be much weaker, and not more >>than Rebel. Besides, isn't Rebel's record against rated players better than >>DBjr's ? >>I don't know the statistics, but I got the impression that DBjr's record is >>not too good. >> >>I think it's pretty low to say or imply that Ed played DBjr for cheap >>publicity. Obviously he did that out of curiosity. > >Right, I would have posted too if the result had been opposite. Next, it is no >shame to lose from a 20,000,000 NPS machine. The screen + documentation >clearly gave that impression. > >>It would make better business sense to >>concentrate on the WCCC rather than play improvised games in the hall, but >>people who are curious do what is intersting, not important. It's clear >>from Hsu & Campbell's letter and the clarification from Friedel that they are not >>curious in the least, and that they don't give a damn about their peers respect. >>That's a good enough reason not to respect them, and I don't. >> >>Amir > >According to Bob (I just wrote email to him about this) the Hsu/Campbell >statement was done in private email and most probably was not meant for >publication. > >Now think of this... in email we feel protected because of the private status. >In email we often say things (or make jokes) to our friends we wouldn't dare >to say in public. In email we act differently than in public. I think that's >perfectly normal. > >Meaning to say that Hsu & Campbell most likely would have reacted in >a different way if they would have known their email was meant for >publication. When I read the Hsu/Campbell statement for the first time >I immediately tasted that sayings like: > > "Either ICCA has violated our conditions of usage, or Ed Schröder > has misused this opportunity at will, to make false advertisement for > his program". > >are not common (normal) as being a proper way to react in public. > >Ed
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