Author: blass uri
Date: 21:02:43 10/13/99
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On October 13, 1999 at 21:36:54, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 13, 1999 at 19:50:41, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On October 13, 1999 at 12:18:57, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 13, 1999 at 03:34:11, Shep wrote: >>> >>>>On October 12, 1999 at 13:59:47, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>this case 7.5 minutes. In this case I saw instead that Hiarcs, with 1 or 2 >>>>>>minutes left after move 52, used all its time, with the word TIME appearing on >>>>>>its clock. I had never seen this before either. In this 8th game it was lost >>>>>>anyway, but Hiarcs lost on time. >>>>>> >>>>>>Enrique >>>>>> >>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>Terry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Very human-like, this time management! :) >>>> >>>>I have seen this often, especially in Hiarcs 6. At move 32, its eval drops from >>>>+0.1 to -1.5 and it suddenly uses like 30 minutes for that move, so that only 5 >>>>minutes remain for the last 8 moves. In other words, Hiarcs is the only program >>>>that really gets into time trouble like a human. >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Shep >>> >>> >>>This still sounds like a _serious_ "bug" to me. -1.5 is not absolutely losing >>>by any measure. But 5 minutes for 8 moves probably is losing against a good >>>opponent with way more time. >>> >>>A fine line exists between using just enough time to save yourself, and using >>>too much time and basically leaving the game resignable. >> >>A drop from 0.1 to -1.5 is an excellent time to start panicking. >> >>Dave > > > >Yes... but with caution. -1.5 isn't necessarily losing. Time == 0 is >absolutely losing. Time==0 is absolutely losing but 5 minutes for 8 moves at tournament time control is not close to be absolutely losing. If I suppose the opponent has 24 minutes for 8 moves then this case is better than 24/5 hardware advantage for 8 moves because of the permanent brain and even 24/5 hardware advantage for the all game and not only for 8 moves is not absolutely losing. Uri Uri
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