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Subject: Re: Moderation: My apologies to Chris Whittington

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 07:40:27 10/14/99

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On October 14, 1999 at 07:07:13, Thorsten Czub wrote:

[snip]
>
>We are all human beeings living in a wrong society.
>The rules of this society have been drifted far away from what is good
>for us.
>We inform us about life using TV, NET, Newspapers, but we forget that
>these vehicles do not report about life, they don't show us the real,
>they manipulate the reality.
>You cannot delete a human beeing. You can try to by misusing the
>power in the TV,net, newspaper to do so. but this will not
>really delete the person and his right opinions.
>
>making opinions, as beeing done in those vehicles, has nothing to do
>with whats really going on.
>
>it is a sad thing that lies can replace the truth only because they have
>been repeated over and over again in the press.
>
>if you try to ban somebody, you will force hate. and doing this, you
>will influence the fate of the society.


The issue is one of being reasonable. A non-reasonable criminal is put in jail.
A non-reasonable poster is banned. People burn their own bridges and no amount
of sympathy from a friend changes the fact that some people act the way they do.
Personal responsibility has to apply or anarchy reigns.

Remember: Doing something is an action. Not doing something is also an action.
Both will influence the fate of the society.


>
>i would like to live in a society where people are important,
>and not what a press is saying or what vehicles are saying.
>i would like to live in a society where it is important what people say,
>and not what press writes about what they have said.
>
>it seems it all turns into a fools place. where the fiction
>gets more important than the reality.
>
>you can delete chris, but he will still be my friend.
>you can try to ban him, but his ideas will still find their ways.
>you can write whatever shit about his program, but
>you cannot stop the good work and you cannot manipulate
>in championships to change the real world again.
>
>In the moment an actor gets a president, reality and fiction
>turns arround, and people mix up that life and media are different
>things.
>in the moment an actor gets power, the society has been shifted.
>because it is more important how somebody plays than what he says
>or what he wants.
>
>this is the moment when fiction has become more important
>than human beeings.
>we have the same thing (like reagan) in britain and germany too.
>Tony Blair is an actor and gerhard schroeder is an actor too.
>
>but we should not be proud of a society that lives a wrong life.
>i hope we can bring it back to real life.


By whose definition? No matter how society changes, someone will be unhappy. All
you can do is try to live your own life the best you can and hopefully if you
are a good and honest person, some of that will reflect in your small portion of
society. Beyond that, you are dealing with human behavior on a massive scale and
little can be done.

One other point: You indicate that people are important, but then you put down
Ronald Reagan, Tony Blair, and Gerhard Schroeder as "actors" as if actors are
any less of people than other people. It is a two way street. If you want people
to respect your opinion, you have to respect others. These individuals have been
very successful and influential and do not deserve criticism based on previous
career decisions. One should view the work they do in the job they have, not in
what jobs they held before. Otherwise, you are not supporting your own view that
people are important. View people based on their actions, not on some title they
hold. Something to think about.

KarinsDad :)



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