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Subject: Re: Moderation: My apologies to Chris Whittington

Author: Mike CastaƱuela

Date: 10:01:53 10/14/99

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Hello unkown KD.
I vote for this response as 'post of the week'!
as this refutes the so often imperious threads of
T. Czub.


On October 14, 1999 at 10:40:27, KarinsDad wrote:

>On October 14, 1999 at 07:07:13, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>>We are all human beeings living in a wrong society.
>>The rules of this society have been drifted far away from what is good
>>for us.
>>We inform us about life using TV, NET, Newspapers, but we forget that
>>these vehicles do not report about life, they don't show us the real,
>>they manipulate the reality.
>>You cannot delete a human beeing. You can try to by misusing the
>>power in the TV,net, newspaper to do so. but this will not
>>really delete the person and his right opinions.
>>
>>making opinions, as beeing done in those vehicles, has nothing to do
>>with whats really going on.
>>
>>it is a sad thing that lies can replace the truth only because they have
>>been repeated over and over again in the press.
>>
>>if you try to ban somebody, you will force hate. and doing this, you
>>will influence the fate of the society.
>
>
>The issue is one of being reasonable. A non-reasonable criminal is put in jail.
>A non-reasonable poster is banned. People burn their own bridges and no amount
>of sympathy from a friend changes the fact that some people act the way they do.
>Personal responsibility has to apply or anarchy reigns.
>
>Remember: Doing something is an action. Not doing something is also an action.
>Both will influence the fate of the society.
>
>
>>
>>i would like to live in a society where people are important,
>>and not what a press is saying or what vehicles are saying.
>>i would like to live in a society where it is important what people say,
>>and not what press writes about what they have said.
>>
>>it seems it all turns into a fools place. where the fiction
>>gets more important than the reality.
>>
>>you can delete chris, but he will still be my friend.
>>you can try to ban him, but his ideas will still find their ways.
>>you can write whatever shit about his program, but
>>you cannot stop the good work and you cannot manipulate
>>in championships to change the real world again.
>>
>>In the moment an actor gets a president, reality and fiction
>>turns arround, and people mix up that life and media are different
>>things.
>>in the moment an actor gets power, the society has been shifted.
>>because it is more important how somebody plays than what he says
>>or what he wants.
>>
>>this is the moment when fiction has become more important
>>than human beeings.
>>we have the same thing (like reagan) in britain and germany too.
>>Tony Blair is an actor and gerhard schroeder is an actor too.
>>
>>but we should not be proud of a society that lives a wrong life.
>>i hope we can bring it back to real life.
>
>
>By whose definition? No matter how society changes, someone will be unhappy. All
>you can do is try to live your own life the best you can and hopefully if you
>are a good and honest person, some of that will reflect in your small portion of
>society. Beyond that, you are dealing with human behavior on a massive scale and
>little can be done.
>
>One other point: You indicate that people are important, but then you put down
>Ronald Reagan, Tony Blair, and Gerhard Schroeder as "actors" as if actors are
>any less of people than other people. It is a two way street. If you want people
>to respect your opinion, you have to respect others. These individuals have been
>very successful and influential and do not deserve criticism based on previous
>career decisions. One should view the work they do in the job they have, not in
>what jobs they held before. Otherwise, you are not supporting your own view that
>people are important. View people based on their actions, not on some title they
>hold. Something to think about.
>
>KarinsDad :)



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