Author: KarinsDad
Date: 12:37:46 10/14/99
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On October 14, 1999 at 14:57:23, Thorsten Czub wrote: [snip] > >About the HOW: > >here in europe we have a dicussion-culture. >this means we talk and discuss very heated , without taking anything >personal. >this means we don't need to delete or select or censor, because each other >calls the other whatever, and still they discuss. >in other cultures it is different. >in some cultures anything is taken personal. >and fights are beeing solved with weapons or harakiri or >taking the opponents hairs away or whatever. >here in europe we have designed those kind of discussion culture >in pubs drinking wine and beer. >In germany we call it streitkultur. >We had a politician here, he is named Oskar La Fontaine. >He has written a book. this is streitkultur. >but the people do not understand (anglo-american reasons and behaviour) >and take anything personal. this is the influence of cultures >who do not have this cultural ability. >when i see chris talking, i can feel that he likes those culture of >the beer and wine people. >he like germany, although british , and also the culture and the good wines. >he is much influenced of this culture. >so this might be a reason why he behaves as he behaves. because he >sees it as a major part of beeing culturious meanwhile the others >believe in other values. >i can live with this, coming from the same background. Fair enough. I would have no problem with such a culture here as long as the ground rules were laid down ahead of time that this is how things are. But on CCC, the ground rules were laid down ahead of time that abusive postings would not be tolerated. Every person who joins the forum agrees to this before joining. Now, we can have different opinions on what "abusive" means, however, that is one of the reasons that people vote for moderators: in an attempt to get representatives whose definition more closely matches their definition. If, however, someone has a more liberal view of the term "abusive" or "off topic" and they cannot persuade a majority of the people to agree, then that person could be unhappy here. That is unfortunate, but the vast majority of people would rather lose a few unhappy individuals rather than have the anarchy of R.G.C.C. I think some of the more liberal members of this forum sometimes forget that they too agreed to the rules and that the enforcement of those rules have to correspond to common sense as defined by the majority, not the minority. Finally, in a pub, it's impossible to delete what someone has said. Here, deletion of abusive messages IS part of the culture (abeit a very tiny part). And even in Europe, I bet that if someone continually called other people idiots (I'm being polite here) over and over again, they would eventually get their lights punched out by someone, regardless of culture (just like here on this forum). KarinsDad :)
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