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Subject: Re: Difficult test position

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:35:55 10/14/99

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On October 14, 1999 at 21:27:35, James Robertson wrote:

>Today in a 5 2 blitz game on FICS, my program reached this position and played
>a5!, which wins. I guess this shows the advantages of a permanent brain, as it
>couldn't find the same move in over one and a half minutes after the game.
>
>3Q4/kp4pp/p3qr2/8/P1N1p3/1P1nP2P/2R3P1/6K1 w - - bm a5;
>
>How long does it take your program to see a5 as substantially better than Qd4?
>If you program gives a5 a score of about 1 to 1.5 pawns for white, it isn't
>seeing everything. :)
>
>CM5500:          6 seconds!
>Crafty 16.18:    55 seconds
>Insomniac 0.54:  1 min, 43 seconds
>Crafty 16.16:    1 min, 59 seconds
>
>Insomniac's results on a P233, 4MB hash (it had a 4MB hash in the game too).
>
> 1      23        0          47  Qc7
> 2      19       60         298  Qc7 Qf7
> 3      17       60        2131  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Qc8 Qd4
> 4     122      280        8323  Qh8 Qf7 Qxh7 Rf1+ Kh2
> 5>    122      330       18382  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7
> 5     122      330       19133  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7
> 6     103      500       43431  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7 Qh8
> 7     103     1100      125435  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7 Qh8 Qf7 Qxh7 Rf1+ Kh2 Qc7+ g3
> 8     103     4290      582670  Qd4+ Kb8 Nd2 Nf2 Qd8+ Ka7 Nc4 Nd3
> 9     103    13350     1871680  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7
>10     113    33120     4722362  Qd4+ Kb8 Nd2 Nf2 Rc4 Rf7 Nxe4 Rd7 Nc5 Rxd4 Nxe6
> Rxc4 bxc4
>11>    385   103760    14085444  a5 Qf5 Nb6 Qf1+ Kh2 Rf8 Qd4 Kb8 Nd7+ Ka8 Nxf8 Q
>xf8 Qxe4
>11     385   103870    14101461  a5 Qf5 Nb6 Qf1+ Kh2 Rf8 Qd4 Kb8 Nd7+ Ka8 Nxf8 Q
>xf8 Qxe4


Here is what I see:

27 seconds to play the move in a game.

                9     4.23     ++   1. Qd4+!!
         (2)    9     6.73   0.93   1. Qd4+ Kb8 2. Nd2 Rf2 3. Qd8+ Ka7
                                    4. Rc8 Qxc8 5. Qxc8 Rxd2 6. Qd7 Kb6
                                    7. Qxg7
         (2)    9->   9.67   0.93   1. Qd4+ Kb8 2. Nd2 Rf2 3. Qd8+ Ka7
                                    4. Rc8 Qxc8 5. Qxc8 Rxd2 6. Qd7 Kb6
                                    7. Qxg7
               10    16.89   1.22   1. Qd4+ Kb8 2. Nd2 Qd6 3. Qxd6+ Rxd6
                                    4. Nxe4 Re6 5. Rc3 Rxe4 6. Rxd3 Kc7
                                    7. Kf2
               10    26.80     ++   1. a5!!
               10     1:45   3.29   1. a5 Rf5 2. Nb6 Rxa5 3. Nc8+ Ka8 4.
                                    Qd4 Nc5 5. Rxc5 Rxc5 6. Qxc5 Kb8 7.
                                    Qd6+ Qxd6 8. Nxd6
               10->   1:45   3.29   1. a5 Rf5 2. Nb6 Rxa5 3. Nc8+ Ka8 4.
                                    Qd4 Nc5 5. Rxc5 Rxc5 6. Qxc5 Kb8 7.
                                    Qd6+ Qxd6 8. Nxd6
               11     1:49   3.47   1. a5 Rf5 2. Nb6 Rxa5 3. Nc8+ Ka8 4.
                                    Qd4 Ra1+ 5. Qxa1 Qxb3 6. Rc7 Nb4 7.
                                    Nb6+ Ka7 8. Qd4
         (3)   11->   1:58   3.47   1. a5 Rf5 2. Nb6 Rxa5 3. Nc8+ Ka8 4.
                                    Qd4 Ra1+ 5. Qxa1 Qxb3 6. Rc7 Nb4 7.
                                    Nb6+ Ka7 8. Qd4




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