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Subject: Re: Help analyzing these positions....

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 15:45:38 10/15/99

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On October 15, 1999 at 17:40:15, James Robertson wrote:

>Today in several quick games, my program reached these positions. My computer
>isn't too fast, so I was hoping somebody with a fast computer and tablebases
>could look at them.
>
>r1b1kb1r/pp4pp/1q3p2/3ppn2/1P3B2/2PQPN2/P2N1PPP/R4RK1 w kq -
>
>Here my program played Bxe5 with a large plus score, and went on to win by
>direct attack on black's king. Both Crafty 16.18 and the Fritz that comes with
>CBL much prefer e4, giving Bxe5 as almost half a pawn for black. Was my program
>right to play Bxe5, or was it overly optimistic?

I was getting very close scores for these moves.  e4 was near a draw score, and
Bxe5 was about -0.3.  They were changing at each iteration.

>6k1/5p2/4n3/6P1/4qp2/2Q2N2/8/6K1 b - -
>
>In this position my program played Qe3+ and after the exchange of a few pieces,
>a drawn KNPKN position was reached. Is there any way for black to win this?

Qe2 is interesting.  This is the line I was getting (13 ply):

1. ... Qe2 2. Kh1 Kh7 3. Kg1 Kg6 4. Qf6+ Kh5 5. Qh6+ Kg4 6. Nh2+ Kf5 7. Qh3+ Ke4
8. Qh7+ Kd4 9. Qxf7 Qe3+ 10. Kf1 Nxg5 11. Qa7+ Kc3

I'm not sure whether this is really better or not.

>1r2r1k1/2pqnppp/p1bpn2P/6P1/2N1PN2/5P2/PP1QB3/K1R4R b - -
>
>My program played g6? which I think loses by force. I don't know if there is
>anything better (Nxf4 maybe?). Can this game be saved?

Nxf4 may be the best move, but looks like it still may lose.  I'm not really
sure.  The score was almost -1 after a couple minutes.

=All scores/times are from modified Crafty 16.19 on PII-300=

Jeremiah



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