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Subject: Re: Dr. Hsu @ Microsoft

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 20:34:39 10/15/99

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On October 15, 1999 at 22:18:00, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>On October 15, 1999 at 16:21:22, Scott Gasch wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Today Dr. Hsu (who recently left IBM / Deep Blue team) gave a talk at Microsoft
>>research.  I went to hear what he had to say and ask him a few questions.
>>
>>The presentation was pretty much about the history of computer chess.  Bob he
>>mentioned you.  Also Belle and Ken Thompson.  And then went on about his own
>>work on Deep Thought / Deep Blue.
>>
>>The entire time I had the feeling he was selling something.  Towards the end he
>>made a pitch for (private) support of his new effort which, as best I can tell,
>>is a single processor chess card for a normal PC to take on Kasparov for the
>>world title.  He seems to think that Kasparov would put the title on the line in
>>a rematch.  Hsu just left IBM last week and has done no work on this yet but he
>>is looking at a timeframe of 2001-2002 for the match.  Dr. Hsu believes he would
>>have a better than 50% chance of winning this match.  He has also gotten
>>permission from IBM to start with the deep blue chess chip and build upon it.
>>
>>I was able to ask some questions during and after the talk that may be
>>interesting to you as well.  Here is what I learned:
>>
>>1) His new project will optionally use NULL move pruning and other pruning.  He
>>wants to be able to turn it on and off.  He believes that with proper selective
>>extension you do not need NULL move pruning at all if you have enough speed,
>>though.
>>
>>2) The eval hardware on Deep Blue was 2/3 of the chip and his eval function has
>>about 3000 terms which they tuned by hand.  He is thinking about different ways
>>to automatically "train" the eval function now.
>>
>>Scott
>
>Kasparov has enough trouble letting his fellow human players try to get the
>world title off him, do you really think he would let a PC card get the chance.
>
>No one, let alone Kasparov would put up a title in that way.


Actually, Kasparov's problem is that he can't find sponsors (with enough money)
to fund his matches.  I think he would play anyone or anything if the money was
right.

--Peter






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