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Subject: Re: Update on Rebel -Lithuania Re-match?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:35:12 10/15/99

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On October 15, 1999 at 15:38:11, James T. Walker wrote:

>On October 15, 1999 at 15:25:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 15, 1999 at 15:08:59, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>On October 15, 1999 at 15:00:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 15, 1999 at 13:25:17, Howard Exner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Anyone have the scoop on this re-match? Watching the one game on the rebel page
>>>>>but how are the other three games unfolding?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rebel won 1 game, lost 2, and drew 1.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately a very disapointing result for Rebel, I bet your real happy! I
>>>don't know what these two losses mean , since the I'ms are very strong  and
>>>capable of beating any grandmaster on any given day.
>>
>>
>>_I_ happen to be pulling for the computer in every game.  But I am realistic
>>in my expectations of the outcome.  This result wasn't bad.  1.5 vs 2.5 for
>>4 IM players in 4 40/2hr games is not a bad result.  It is right in line with
>>what I would expect/hope for myself.  2-2 would have been very good.
>
>Honestly Bob,
>This is a disappointing performance by Rebel.  Considering it's past performance
>vs GMs/IMs.  But it also is to be expected.  Human IM's/GM's also have bad
>results occasionally.  Only the overall performance is what matters.  In that
>respect it is still doing very good.  I think we should not lose sight of the
>fact that this type of "Challenge" will show the computers in the worst possible
>light.  There can be no doubt that computers playing in a 4 round swill style
>system or even in a round robin tournament would do much better than what we
>will see in this format.  It will not give us the "Rating" we are looking for
>unless the worst case rating is what you're trying to establish.
>Jim Walker


I don't know what you mean "past performance between GM/IM".  There _isn't_
any "past performance" at 40/2.  we now have maybe 12 games total, counting
the GM games plus the 8 games in these two matches?  Aegon doesn't count as
that isn't 40/2...

As far as the difference between playing in a planned game and playing at a
tournament, don't think a GM will not plan on playing you if he knows you are
coming.  And don't think he won't be studying for you if he sees he is paired
with you in the next round.

I doubt the rating 'floor' of match play will be significantly different from
the 'ceiling' obtained in random tournament play.  I've done both many times
with Cray Blitz and Crafty.  And I didn't notice any particular difference
myself.  They simply prepare very well no matter what.



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