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Subject: Re: DB will never play with REBEL, they simple are afraid no to do well

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 05:01:59 10/16/99

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On October 16, 1999 at 03:54:35, Ratko V Tomic wrote:

<snipped attribution, Bob Hyatt wrote:>
>> yes, 3 is pretty typical, although it steadily drops as material
>> comes off.

>I tried Crafty 16.6 within Fritz UI (default engine settings, 64Mb hash) in a
>middle game position with 38 avaliable moves. The depths tested were 10, 11 and
>12 plies. The effective branching factor (calculated from the total nodes N it
>displayed at the end of search as: B=ln(N)/ln(D)) ranged from 4.5 to 4.7.

Of course, the effective branching factor will vary with the position.  For some
positions it will simply be fairly low.  Others, higher.  Or it can be low for
many ply, and then suddenly be high at certain depths in the search.  The best
way to really test this is to try it on many positions, from all phases of the
game, and all types of positions (open, closed, tactical, 'positional', endgame,
etc.)  Also, it must be measured over many different depths (although this part
isn't as important as measuring many positions).  Only an average from all these
kinds of positions can give the true effective branching factor (EBF). :)

I have an example:  I've been letting my modified Crafty search from the end of
Kasparov/DB game 2 for a couple of days.  Here are the numbers for branching
factor at each ply (after 10):

10->11 = 11.46 (3.74 to 42.89 seconds)
11->12 = 1.51 (42.89 seconds to 65 seconds)
12->13 = 5.30 (1:05 to 5:45)
13->14 = 3.85 (5:45 to 22:10)
14->15 = 1.78 (22:10 to 39:36)
15->16 = 1.92 (39:36 to 76:06)
16->17 = 2.40 (76:06 to 182:42)
17->18 = 2.88 (182:42 to 525:47)
18->19 = At 2176 minutes now, still searching.

Average: 3.89 (not counting the last iteration).
Without 10->11, the average is only 2.8.  The branching factor for each ply
under 10 was very near two, most being less.  If these were counted, the average
would be probably less than 3, counting ALL ply up to 18.

Jeremiah



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