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Subject: Re: deep blue elo

Author: Amir Ban

Date: 15:35:11 10/16/99

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On October 16, 1999 at 17:16:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 16, 1999 at 15:43:59, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On October 16, 1999 at 01:29:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 15, 1999 at 23:55:47, walter irvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>does anyone care to speculate what elo the deep blue that defeated kasparov was
>>>>playing at . i know it was too few games to pin down an exact elo . does anyone
>>>>believe a micro program like fritz ect could win 1 in 5 games vs db ?? if db was
>>>>on icc could it be beaten at blitz by ANY of the players there ??? i'm just
>>>>curious as to what others think about this .
>>>
>>>
>>>I would speculate, and it is _real_ speculation, that it was in the 2750-2850
>>>range.  Based on lots of things including deep thought performing at 2600 over
>>>25 games to get the Fredkin 2 prize, plus beating kasparov.  Whether it is
>>>stronger than Kasparov or not is a good question.  It is clearly close enough
>>>to worry about.
>>>
>>
>>You were told here only a week that this was for 2500 USCF (i.e. about ELO
>>2400), and you acknowledged this information. How did you manage to forget it so
>>fast ?
>
>the requirement was to exceed 2500 USCF.  they hit right at 2600 USCF.  I
>didn't acknowledge anything different.  And _nothing_ I know of says that
>USCF = FIDE+100.  In fact, Ken Sloan (in the CIS department) did a detailed
>study and found that above 2400 or so the ratings are far closer than that
>
>He published that in r.g.c.c about 2 years ago.  It hasn't changed that I
>know of.
>
>
>
>>
>>This is not the first time that when corrected on a piece of Deep Blue
>>information, you acknowledged mistake, then immediately went back to repeating
>>it.
>
>This is not the first time you make an error in a statement, then refer to
>the original error as fact.  DT had a rating of about 2600 USCF over 25
>consecutive games.  You can find the exact details in the JICCA announcement
>where they were awarded the prize.
>

Nice try. It was in fact USCF 2551.


>You really have this 'envy' thing going, don't you?
>

Yes. I wish I could make things up as easily as you do. It's an asset in some
situations.

Amir




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