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Subject: Re: Difficult test position

Author: William Bryant

Date: 20:36:28 10/16/99

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On October 14, 1999 at 21:27:35, James Robertson wrote:

>Today in a 5 2 blitz game on FICS, my program reached this position and played
>a5!, which wins. I guess this shows the advantages of a permanent brain, as it
>couldn't find the same move in over one and a half minutes after the game.
>
>3Q4/kp4pp/p3qr2/8/P1N1p3/1P1nP2P/2R3P1/6K1 w - - bm a5;
>
>How long does it take your program to see a5 as substantially better than Qd4?
>If you program gives a5 a score of about 1 to 1.5 pawns for white, it isn't
>seeing everything. :)

The latest Debug version (developmental version) of Screamer
gets this in 8 seconds, with a marked increase in the score by
22 seconds

Welcome to Screamer (Beta) 1.00  Build 39
Current Hash Table Size: 8192 K bytes
Debug Control On
PVS Search
NULL move Search

New Board Position
3Q4/kp4pp/p3qr2/8/P1N1p3/1P1nP2P/2R3P1/6K1 w - - bm a5;
Move 1 W>>
PLY     NODES     TIME   SCORE  PV
____________________________________________
  5     16576     0:00   +0.95  Qh8 Qf5 Qxg7 Qf1+ Kh2 h5
  6    111084     0:02   +0.44  Qh8 Rg6 Qxh7 Ne1 Rf2 Nxg2
  7    247748     0:05   +0.91  Qh8 Qf5 Qxg7 Nc5 g4 Qf1+ Kh2 h6
  7    444067     0:08   +1.14  a5 Qf5 Qd4+ Kb8 Nd6 Qf1+ Kh2 Rf8 Nxe4
  7    501273     0:10   +1.14  a5 Qf5
  8   1129450     0:22   +1.71  a5 Qf5 Qd4+ Qc5 Qxe4 Qf5 Qd4+ Nc5 e4 Qf1+ Kh2
     ----- Search Stopped -----
     Total Search Time: 0:26
     Move: a5

>
>CM5500:          6 seconds!
>Crafty 16.18:    55 seconds
>Insomniac 0.54:  1 min, 43 seconds
>Crafty 16.16:    1 min, 59 seconds
>
>Insomniac's results on a P233, 4MB hash (it had a 4MB hash in the game too).
>
> 1      23        0          47  Qc7
> 2      19       60         298  Qc7 Qf7
> 3      17       60        2131  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Qc8 Qd4
> 4     122      280        8323  Qh8 Qf7 Qxh7 Rf1+ Kh2
> 5>    122      330       18382  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7
> 5     122      330       19133  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7
> 6     103      500       43431  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7 Qh8
> 7     103     1100      125435  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7 Qh8 Qf7 Qxh7 Rf1+ Kh2 Qc7+ g3
> 8     103     4290      582670  Qd4+ Kb8 Nd2 Nf2 Qd8+ Ka7 Nc4 Nd3
> 9     103    13350     1871680  Qd4+ Kb8 Qd8+ Ka7
>10     113    33120     4722362  Qd4+ Kb8 Nd2 Nf2 Rc4 Rf7 Nxe4 Rd7 Nc5 Rxd4 Nxe6
> Rxc4 bxc4
>11>    385   103760    14085444  a5 Qf5 Nb6 Qf1+ Kh2 Rf8 Qd4 Kb8 Nd7+ Ka8 Nxf8 Q
>xf8 Qxe4
>11     385   103870    14101461  a5 Qf5 Nb6 Qf1+ Kh2 Rf8 Qd4 Kb8 Nd7+ Ka8 Nxf8 Q
>xf8 Qxe4



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