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Subject: Re: deep blue elo

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 02:48:37 10/18/99

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>Posted by Robert Hyatt on October 17, 1999 at 09:53:55:

>>>I was thinking about your tremendous envy of the DB project.  You have taken
>>>every chance possible to 'do them in'.  from your mistaken statements about
>>>their output, to whatever.
>>
>>I can't remember any "mistaken statements" from Amir regarding DB.
>>
>>>your loss, not mine...
>>
>>Come on, some of us are just curious, don't confuse that with envy.
>>
>>Ed
>
>
>How about this:  "this output looks suspicious and really needs an explanation
>by IBM" after he had been told _exactly_ how normal this output looked.  I
>even posted _identical_ output from Crafty that showed exactly the same kind of
>'panic time usage'.

The subject wasn't about panic time. The subject was about the DB main-line
showing a 3 x pawn sacrifice for a king attack and still having a good score.
That and that only made Kasparov suspicious and things started. Kasparov just
could not believe a computer was able to come up with such a strong and
very human-like play. As far as I remember Amir's interest was in other programs
views (analysis) of the move in question.

>After a year of talking about this, with many explaining that the output was
>not 'unusualy' (just not well-formatted) he gave up on it.

All thing ends.  At some point everything is just said, no need to repeat
statements. It doesn't mean he gave up.

>There was his demand that IBM drop the "Junior" in "Deep Blue Junior".

I would say if Amir was first with the name "Junior" he has every right to
complain.

Ed

>As for curious, asking questions is one thing that a curious person would
>do.  I don't recall your making the kind of statements he has made.




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