Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 16:43:43 10/18/99
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On October 18, 1999 at 18:21:35, blass uri wrote: >On October 18, 1999 at 11:55:04, Robert Pope wrote: > >>On October 18, 1999 at 09:59:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 18, 1999 at 05:48:37, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>>Posted by Robert Hyatt on October 17, 1999 at 09:53:55: >>>> >>>>>>>I was thinking about your tremendous envy of the DB project. You have taken >>>>>>>every chance possible to 'do them in'. from your mistaken statements about >>>>>>>their output, to whatever. >>>>>> >>>>>>I can't remember any "mistaken statements" from Amir regarding DB. >>>>>> >>>>>>>your loss, not mine... >>>>>> >>>>>>Come on, some of us are just curious, don't confuse that with envy. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ed >>>>> >>> >> >><snip> >> >>>> >>>>>There was his demand that IBM drop the "Junior" in "Deep Blue Junior". >>>> >>>>I would say if Amir was first with the name "Junior" he has every right to >>>>complain. >>>> >>> >>> >>>"Junior" is not a valid name in the US. "Junior" means "same name as father, >>>only one generation younger" here. We have _many_ products with "junior" in >>>their name for this reason. If they had only called their program Junior, I >>>would agree. But "Deep Blue Junior" is obviously not going to be confused with >>>a program named Junior. Or would you like me to introduce you to an old >>>American Automobile manufacturer that made a car named "Rebel"?? In the >>>60's. >>> >>> >> >>If Amir really was complaining about their use of the word "Junior", I think it >>is rather funny that there is another post right now that talks about a match >>that is going to take place with "Deep Junior" as a contestant. How many >>people first thought Deep Blue, before catching themselves? I bet a lot more >>than ever thought, "You mean Deep Blue Junior really isn't just a colored >>version of Junior?!?" :) > >Amir did not start this but deep blue start this by using the name Junior in >their program. > >Another point is that Deep blue used all name of Junior when >Amir used only "deep"-part of the name of deep blue. > >Uri Doesn't change a thing. "Junior" is a proper thing to add to the name of a 'son' if the name matches the father exactly. It usually means "smaller version" or "younger version" or "more recent version". You can go to the local hardware store and fins a maul to split firewood that weighs 12 pounds. You can find a 6-8 pound version. The big version is called "Paul" (from Paul Bunyan I assume). The smaller version is called "paul junior". Same thing for a 'machine' that makes bread. I have a "BBQer Junior" gas grill on my deck. Etc. All perfectly natural. It is akin to naming a program "2" and then getting offended when they say "DB 2" Appending "junior" to a name is simply an everyday occurrence here. As is appending "senior" to the elder of the father-son-grandson 'chain'... paul senior, paul and paul junior. And when paul senior dies, typically everyone slides up the pole one notch...
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