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Subject: Re: deep blue elo

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 18:10:10 10/19/99

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On October 19, 1999 at 16:38:58, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

>On October 19, 1999 at 16:19:54, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On October 19, 1999 at 14:59:15, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>>
>>>On October 19, 1999 at 14:32:01, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 19, 1999 at 14:02:51, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I tink that this is a key point in the argument. Junior, an Israeli program
>>>>>commercialized by a German enterprise, is not only sold in the US, and "Junior"
>>>>>as a qualifier means nothing in Spanish, French, Italian... Like you, I have the
>>>>>same name of my father, but I never carried the Jr. after. Neither does my
>>>>>eldest son. It wouldn't make any sense in Spanish.
>>>>
>>>>So how do you differentiate between you and your father?  Without some sort of
>>>>modifier on the name, do they not get confused often?
>>>>
>>>>Jeremiah
>>>
>>>	In Spanish speaking countries, we have two family names. The first one is taken
>>>from the father and the second from the mother.
>>>	I will not name any son of mine after me (José de Jesús), but if I do it will
>>>be very unlikely that our full names match (unless I happen to marry a lady
>>>whose first family name is 'Ruvalcaba', which is not a common name here). I.e.
>>>his name would be José de Jesús García -here you put his mother's first family
>>>name-.
>>>	Another difference with English speaking countries is that here women never
>>>change their name for getting married. Usually people, men and women, keep the
>>>same name for their whole life.
>>>José.
>>
>>That is starting to happen in North America too.
>>
>>Dave
>
>	¿What? ¿People having two family names?
>José (:
>
>P.S. it is not new in North America, last time I checked México was in North
>America, and these name practices were in effect here long before I was born.

No, I mean that formerly women would change their last name to their husband's,
and many women do not anymore.

Re: Mexico, sure, it's part of North America if you are speaking continent-wise
(North vs South).  Sometimes I think of it as part of "Central America", which
perhaps isn't all that accurate, though.

Dave



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