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Subject: Re: deep blue elo

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:28:18 10/19/99

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On October 19, 1999 at 18:59:22, KarinsDad wrote:

>On October 19, 1999 at 18:42:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>>
>>>Sure, but that's not the point. If a noun becomes a trademark and has the
>>>copyright, no common usage of this word in any language gives the right to
>>>create confusion and infringe an international trademark.
>>
>>I doubt "junior" has been awarded any trademark, although if it had,
>>that only means the word 'junior' by itself, spelled a certain way, in
>>a certain font, etc, would be protected...
>
>Hhmmmm. Can I create a soft drink called "Coke Slam" and not have Coca Cola come
>after me? I mean, it's just the phrase "Coke". It refers to the slang term for
>cocaine, not Coca Cola, honest.
>


We aren't getting anywhere.  "coke" is not in the least comparable with the
word "junior".  As I said before, would you like me to list a few products
with the word "junior" at the end of their name?  Then you list a few products
with the word "coke" in their names.  Then we will be on the same channel.
Because I can find a _bunch_ of them (a simple netsearch will flood you with
possibilities) while you won't find any products with 'coke' in them in the
same way...

I have a "BBqr Junior" on my deck.  My wife has a "George Foreman Junior cooking
machine".  IBM once _sold_ a "PC Junior" way before there was a junior chess
program.  (remember that computer?)

Using junior has lots of precedence...



>>
>>>
>>>For example, "Honda" is a common Spanish word. You can hit with a "Honda", you
>>>can also give soups with "Honda", as the Spanish idiomatic expression says. But
>>>if a Spanish maker sells an artifact with this name, I know of a Japanese maker
>>>that will complain real loud. "Buy a Honda!". Imagine...
>>
>>
>>I doubt they could complain unless you are talking "automobile" or "motorcycle"
>>or outboard motor for a boat.  They wouldn't think twice about such a word used
>>with another well-known word, assuming such usage made perfect sense...
>>
>
>I doubt Amir could complain unless you are talking "chess program". Hhmmmm.
>
>We would not be disagreeing with you if Deep Blue Junior was a spreadsheet.
>
>What is your take on the name Deep Junior? Doesn't that imply an infringement on
>Deep Thought and Deep Blue?


It doesn't bother me in the least.  He was taking a poke at IBM, so let 'im
have his fun.  "deep" isn't a reasonable chess program name.  Because we have
a movie titled "The Deep", one titled "Deep Purple", a book titled "Deep
Trouble" and so forth.  I have absolutely no problem confusing "deep blue"
and "deep blue junior" with "deep junior" although I would say "deep junior"
is very close to IBM's name.  However, no one in their right mind would confuse
the two _programs_ so I don't see any problem at all.



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