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Subject: Re: deep blue elo

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 21:07:59 10/19/99

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On October 19, 1999 at 21:31:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 19, 1999 at 20:14:57, KarinsDad wrote:
>
>>On October 19, 1999 at 19:10:36, James B. Shearer wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>>
>>>         This has nothing to do with copyright.  It is a trademark question.
>>>For what it's worth I don't believe that under US law "Deep Blue Junior" would
>>>infringe on any trademark rights Ban may have on the word "Junior".  Was Junior
>>>even for sale when "Deep Blue Junior" was coined?
>>>                               James B. Shearer
>>
>>You are correct. I am terrible at legalisms (libel vs. slander, copyright vs.
>>trademark, etc.). That's probably why my sister became a DA, in order to one up
>>me on legalisms. ;)
>>
>>Well, both Junior and Deep Blue Jr. have been around for quite a while. Junior
>>won the microcomputer championship in 1997. Deep Blue Jr. started touring in
>>1996 I think, but I cannot find any references to it before 1997.
>>
>>So, I guess someone who knows the history of these two programs better than I
>>should speak up.
>>
>>KarinsDad :)
>
>
>If this were 'patent' issue, IBM had a trademark for "PC Junior" well before
>there was a junior chess program. We had a couple of those in the department
>a _long_ while ago, back in the days of the PS2 and so forth.

Sorry, you lost me.

What does PC Junior (a system) have to do with Deep Blue Junior (a chess
program) other than they both came from the same corporation?

Are you trying to infer that having a system called PC Junior entitles IBM to a
name preference for a PC chess program 10+ years later?

I doubt it works that way (but then again, my knowledge of legal matters is
flawed).

So, do you know which officially came first (i.e. played in tournaments first),
Deep Blue Junior or Junior?

Also, is it officially Deep Blue Junior (that is what I found on the web earlier
as the earliest references) or Deep Blue Jr.?

KarinsDad :)



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