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Subject: ply search vs elo rating - proposed formula

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 03:26:58 10/20/99

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On the basis of what I have read in these threads, I propose the following
formula for the relationship between ply depth and elo rating:

log((ply * K) + C1) * C2

Where ply = depth to which the search is 100% complete
K = Knowledge level of program
C1 and C2 are constants

K is calculated as follows:

If T is the total of all chess knowledge, and KP is the knowledge level of the
program, then K = KP/(T - KP)

Needless to say, the formula does not take account of search extensions (except
that you can adjust the knowledge rating according to the cleverness of the
extensions).

I name this formula "Laight's Equation - 20/10/99"

To illustrate the formula in action, I will use the following values:

K = 0.15
C1 = 1.5
C2 = 4300

This would yield the following results:

Ply     Elo Rating
===     ==========

2       1098
4       1386
6       1635
8       1855
10      2052
12      2230
14      2392
16      2542
18      2680
20      2809
22      2929

Graham

On October 19, 1999 at 10:35:32, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On October 19, 1999 at 10:30:18, rich buska wrote:
>
>>i understand that is a 1/2 move but what does equal in elo
>>
>>2 ply 1100 ?
>>4 ply 1400  ?
>>6 ply 1600?
>>8 ply  1800? etc?
>
>I don't think you can say for sure.  A lot of it depends on the quality of the
>static evaluation within the individual program.  A program with a very simple
>evaluation (Fritz, maybe) will do much worse with 2 ply than a program with a
>larger evaluation (Hiarcs, CM, Rebel, Crafty, etc.) doing a 2 ply search.  The
>way Fritz (or other programs) can make up for this is with extensions, which
>will greatly influence this.  The more extensions done (in lower search depths),
>the better the program will play. [Because in higher search depths, too many
>extensions can stall the search, and make it play much worse, even.]
>
>Jeremiah



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