Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 19:55:03 10/21/99
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On October 21, 1999 at 22:05:15, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>On October 21, 1999 at 17:45:51, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 21, 1999 at 15:23:45, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>
>>>On October 21, 1999 at 13:21:00, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 21, 1999 at 10:33:16, Peter Pilarinos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>My personal opinion is that it would be EXTREMELY difficult to make further
>>>>>progress based on the present Genius program structure. I remember Richard Lang
>>>>>saying this in one interview that I read about him some years back. His programs
>>>>>are very unique in their structure. It was this type of programming tequnique
>>>>>that allowed the Genius programs to be so poweful on relatively slow computers.
>>>>>Now that the computers are so much quicker, the advantages of this type of
>>>>>search structure are somwhat dim. I believe that if Mr. Lang wanted to make
>>>>>futher noticable progress, he would have to re-write his program from scratch,
>>>>>using different, more contemporary methods. He is obviously a very talented man,
>>>>>and I am sure he could do this if he wished.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pete P
>>>>
>>>>I'm sure you are going to think that the following is very arrogant, but I
>>>>really think what he said is BULLSHIT.
>>>>
>>>>Lang's program are not unique in their structure. He wants you to believe so,
>>>>but it's not true. He is using alpha-beta, hash tables, pruning techniques,
>>>>static piece square tables, dynamic part in the evaluation and so on.
>>>>
>>>>What Genius misses is some modern pruning techniques that work better at higher
>>>>depths. Because Genius is killed by search depth, which is ironic as he was
>>>>killing everybody by search depth several years ago. probably also relying less
>>>>on static evaluation made at the root would be needed.
>>>>
>>>>The truth is that he has probably lost the will to work on Genius. What he has
>>>>does not need to be rewritten. He should keep almost everything, because he has
>>>>powerful algorithms. He just has to add several modern techniques, which are BTW
>>>>publicly known.
>>>>
>>>>In this case however, Genius would become a program similar to many others, with
>>>>just a little bit of originality.
>>>>
>>>>But who am I to pretend he is wrong... :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>Your post is appreciated, Your language is not !
>>>Wayne
>>
>>Oops... What did I say?
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>You used "f***" twice in one post... but not the one he replied to.
>
>Dave
Oh yes. I wanted to use 3 of them (the company I was talking about deserves
them) but decided to stay polite.
Christophe
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