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Subject: Re: Positional Play (Only 2700+ GMs need respond please)

Author: walter irvin

Date: 20:34:02 10/22/99

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On October 22, 1999 at 21:44:56, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:

>Computer microprocessors are not able to conceptualize.  When that happens your
>will see good play.  My pet dog is better than all the worlds' computers at
>conceptualization.  Planning for advance events requires a brain, especially if
>you have an opponent who has a brain.  Would a computer know what I am saying
>now and would it reply intelligently?  A computer would not see the humor in
>this post in the first place.  That requires a fully-functioning brain that is
>capable of interpreting minute differences in meaning. That is also the reason
>why the superpowers don't rely solely on computers to launch missiles as a part
>of their nuclear deterrence.
>
>Guys like Hyatt, Schroder and Hirsch are pretty clever but until they have
>processors that can conceptualize they will only "approximate" a grandmaster
>level of chess play.  Adjuncts like tablebases and opening books will certainly
>elevate the level of play.  Rapid analysis ply searches can only take you so
>far.
>
>I think that the level of play of todays programs is fantastic and most will
>outplay most of the members at CCC.  That does not mean that they can beat our
>best human players.  That day will probably be here within ten years.
>
>Tim Frohlick

i think computers can play at and beyond gm level . if a computer is fast enough
then who is to say where tactics end and strategy begins .i mean if a program
could hit 25 to 30 ply what chance would anyone have?????? all a computer needs
to see is the end result before the human can see it .



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