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Subject: Re: La Petite 1.0 (download)

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 00:04:50 10/23/99

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On October 23, 1999 at 02:33:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 23, 1999 at 02:06:26, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On October 23, 1999 at 00:41:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 22, 1999 at 20:28:15, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 22, 1999 at 18:48:58, James Swafford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 22, 1999 at 07:10:55, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>you can download a new WinBoard Engine from my webpage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>La Petite (program from Dr. Gabriele Müller, switzerland) is the "Little" sister
>>>>>>from La Grande. La Grande is the successor from the very experimental privat
>>>>>>chess program Voyager. La Petite play much aggresive and spekulative as La
>>>>>>Grande. The program is complete rewritten and is the work from many years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>More information on my webpage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have fun with this new chess engine and thanks to Dr. Gabriele Müller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kind regards
>>>>>>Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS_1
>>>>>>This La Petite "WinBoard Engine" standing exclusive on my webpage !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS_2
>>>>>>Copy from the "WinBoard Forum"
>>>>>
>>>>>You didn't mention your URL, so I've taken the liberty
>>>>>to provide one:
>>>>>
>>>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>It's at http://www.in-trier.de/~quisinsky/schach/download.htm  LaPetite appears
>>>>to play a very risky game, worth a try.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>Let me give you a quick idea:  download this program.  Under unix, do a quick
>>>"strings lapetite.exe" and then download the latest "crafty" and give that a
>>>quick check.
>>>
>>>I'm not the least bit amused by this.  "many years of work" as it says in
>>>the web site is true...  but it appears to be mostly _my_ work.  :(
>>>
>>>This thing still uses crafty commands like reset, timeleft, etc.  It does the
>>>same sort of text processing.  I don't know of many programs that handle
>>>castling with "0-0", "o-o", "O-O", and "O-O+" ad so forth.  And uses my
>>>"savepos *" internal command to set the initial position to a non-standard
>>>position, etc.
>>>
>>>This guy is a scam artist.  This program is "crafty".  Just like his previous
>>>program (voyager).
>>>
>>>what a loser to keep trying this.  You'd think he would at least get a clue
>>>about how to hide his copying a little bit better.
>>>
>>>Please pass the word along that _if_ this program does go commercial, he can
>>>expect contact from my attorney.
>>
>>I think it's supposed to be a lady (Gabriele).  bsf...  I'm sure you're right.
>>However, you say that if the author were a bit less of a loser, he could hide
>>his deception easily.  If so, then it's likely others have done the same,
>>undetected.  By publishing the source, you encourage this sort of thing.  No way
>>around it.
>>
>>Will
>
>
>I don't encourage it, any more than the xfree86.org guys encourage people to
>steal the latest Xfree86 source, rename it, and claim it is something new.
>
>We had a guy at a very old ACM event that showed up with a 'stolen' commercial
>executable that he had edited a bit (with a debugger) to change the output,
>but the program was the same.
>
>If it is available, "they" will come, it seems...  :(

Yes, this does appear to be Crafty.  Whatever large or small modifications may
have been made to the code, it does have Crafty's finger prints.

Pete



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