Author: Alessandro Damiani
Date: 02:19:42 10/23/99
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On October 22, 1999 at 17:07:35, Christophe Theron wrote: >On October 22, 1999 at 12:28:03, Tord Romstad wrote: > >>On October 21, 1999 at 23:05:10, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On October 21, 1999 at 21:59:11, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>> >>>>On October 21, 1999 at 18:00:47, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>BTW, is the GCC Linux compiler provided with an IDE? My friend tells me he has >>>>>found only the command line compiler. >>>> >>>>Hah. Dream on. >>>> >>>>The closest thing you'll find to an IDE is Emacs. I've seen people edit their >>>>code, compile it, run it, debug it, etc. all in Emacs, but I don't know how it's >>>>all done. I just use it for editing (it does have colour syntax highlighting), >>>>and I do the other stuff in xterms. >>> >>>I did not know Emacs could debug too... >>> >>>Anyway, thanks for the info! >> >>Actually, there are at least two IDEs available for GCC running in Linux. >>One of them is pretty much identical to the RHIDE IDE for djgpp (the Linux >>version has a different name, which I do not remember) and a new IDE (still >>alpha or beta software, I think) called kdevelop. None of these programs >>are used much, because almost everybody finds Emacs vastly superior. >>Mastering Emacs takes some time, but when you have mastered it you will >>probably feel crippled in all other IDEs (including the IDEs supplied with >>commercial compilers like Visual C). The default settings in Emacs are >>not very good, but you can easily configure and extend the editor to your >>own preferences. >> >>Tord > > >Well guys... Actually I have done it. Yesterday my Windows crashed once again >(now I'm not able to set the display properties anymore). I felt so frustrated >that I really wanted to hammer my computer. I refrained and decided (just to >calm down) to install Linux on a computer I had already prepared for this (by >letting an unformatted 800Mb partition on it). > >It took me 20 minutes to set up Linux, and I had no documentation except the >small readme from the Mandrake 6.0 CD. > >It's not perfect though. Initially the display resolution was 640x480 (which is >fine) but the desktop size was 800x600. So I had to move the mouse around to see >everything. Very annoying and stupid problem. I took me more than one hour to >get rid of this. > >There are other problems, like a really snowy screen when things are drawn (the >S3 driver apparently has problems), and I have no sound. > >But well, it works. Maybe Linux is not so far from being as easy to install and >use as Windows. I don't find it to run any faster (as some told me), but it's >not slow. > >About emacs and other horrible things I have seen: these tools are prehistoric. >It does not matter how powerful they are. They are cryptic and ugly, and as more >and more Windows users will come to Linux, it will be very important to provide >easier (even if less powerful) tools. I'm the one to still use DOS utilities, so >I understand perfectly that one can love emacs, but still some effort has to be >done for people that are no Unix experts. > >I suppose it's just a matter of time, and anyway simpler and user friendly texte >editors are provided with KDE. If you come from Windows, KDE looks really like >Windows and you get used to it very quickly. > Do you mean Emacs or XEmacs? Alessandro >Sofar my opinion is that Linux looks indeed technically more powerful than >Windows, but there is still some work to make it more user friendly. > >It is possible to have both Windows and Linux on the same disk, but you must >have separated partitions for each (which is not very complicated to do). Then >you can boot the one you want, and even choose the one that is launched by >default when you type nothing at boot time. > >Linux will read your DOS/Windows floppies and recognize your CD-ROM drive. > >All of this is just my opinion, or worse, just my first impressions. But I don't >expect people to try Linux more than 2 hours if it is too difficult, so first >impressions matter. And my first impressions are not too bad. > >Now I feel much more relaxed to know that I will probably be able to drop >Windows at any time and use Linux as my developpment environment. So I return to >Windows now and to the Windows version of Chess Tiger. :) > >I might try to compile Chess Tiger for Linux whenever I have a free weekend. I >don't expect this to happen before the next millenium though... > > > Christophe
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